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Fri, 20 Jan 2023 22:33:43 +0000Economist8667044@https://www.econjobrumors.com/<p>None of this stuff matters. You are obsessing over irrelevant things. You can just learn it whenever you want. second year, fourth year. who cares. It's not about how fast you get there, it's about quality and understanding. Someone who takes measure theory in his second year and doesnt get it isnt better off. And there are different difficult levels that you can teach any subject. The undergrad coverage of measure theory wont be the same as the grad level. </p>
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<blockquote>The median student is a sophomore and youre doing functional analysis? Why would you come to a forum just to tell an obvious lie?
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<p>Well, in France, we started Measure Theory in our first year. Then, we take Functional and Harmonic Analysis in the sophomore year.
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<p>It takes you guy a whole year to do Measure theory?<br />
Here for the median maths student it would be like (I am talking about the median, not a star)<br />
First year: calculus, algebra,… all easy stuff<br />
Second year: analysis sequence which comprises of real analysis, then measure theory, finally complex analysis. Some takes functional analysis as well (it is a separate course and not included in the sequence). There is another sequence in topology which is compulsory for maths major. I did a maths minor so never bothered with it.<br />
Third year: PhD courses<br />
Final year: research, start to publish paper.<br />
The star students (imo type) wouldnt bother with the first year.<br />
Check out Princeton 325. Lots of second year undergrads take that course. I am at a school slightly below Princeton in maths (U Chicago, Caltech, Berkeley, CMU,…).
</p></blockquote>Economist on "I seriously dont understand Ejmr’s obsession with real analysis"
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Fri, 20 Jan 2023 22:28:39 +0000Economist8667036@https://www.econjobrumors.com/<p>I seriously don't understand what compels pathoIogicaIIy verbose tardlettes to gurgle their mind-numbing inanities.</p>
<blockquote><p>Its not that hard. At the lowest level course (which was covered in 10 weeks) we did all of Rudin, the first two chapters of Stein functional analysis and first two chapters of Stein Fourier analysis, which means things like Hilbert Space, dual space, orthogonality,… and all the convergent results in Fourier series. There were around 45 of us. The median student was a second year undergrad. Average grade was like 90%, exam difficulty is at level of the problems in Rudin/ Stein.<br />
I find it funny that economists struggle with these things (or at least those on this site). The ability to do these low level maths doesnt signal anything. And yet most people here struggle with it. Some even decide to do a PhD in political science just because they are terrified at the idea of taking real analysis. Others are less extreme and choose to attend the course rather than taking for credit.<br />
To be honest, while people on this site like to make fun of engineer/ medical students, I never heard of them complaining about the maths. In fact there were more engineers in my class taking analysis for fun, than economists who truly needed it for the admission. Story is the same even for classes that seem totally irrelevant to engineers like number theory<br />
No wonder economics is dying and none is taking it seriously anymore. Most people are not passionate about research at all. At this point you guys are just bunch of 1d10t chasing prestige.
</p></blockquote>Economist on "I seriously dont understand Ejmr’s obsession with real analysis"
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Fri, 20 Jan 2023 22:19:40 +0000Economist8667022@https://www.econjobrumors.com/<blockquote><p>you will never need a math major to do a PhD in econ/fin. Math courses for EECS majors are more than enough for the PhD
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<p>that’s true. EE+math is the king
</p>Economist on "I seriously dont understand Ejmr’s obsession with real analysis"
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Fri, 20 Jan 2023 22:19:37 +0000Economist8667021@https://www.econjobrumors.com/<p>imagine being a nocoiner lmfao
</p>Economist on "I seriously dont understand Ejmr’s obsession with real analysis"
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Fri, 20 Jan 2023 22:17:17 +0000Economist8667019@https://www.econjobrumors.com/<blockquote><blockquote>The median student is a sophomore and youre doing functional analysis? Why would you come to a forum just to tell an obvious lie?
</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, in France, we started Measure Theory in our first year. Then, we take Functional and Harmonic Analysis in the sophomore year.
</p></blockquote>
<p>It takes you guy a whole year to do Measure theory?<br />
Here for the median maths student it would be like (I am talking about the median, not a star)<br />
First year: calculus, algebra,… all easy stuff<br />
Second year: analysis sequence which comprises of real analysis, then measure theory, finally complex analysis. Some takes functional analysis as well (it is a separate course and not included in the sequence). There is another sequence in topology which is compulsory for maths major. I did a maths minor so never bothered with it.<br />
Third year: PhD courses<br />
Final year: research, start to publish paper.<br />
The star students (imo type) wouldnt bother with the first year.<br />
Check out Princeton 325. Lots of second year undergrads take that course. I am at a school slightly below Princeton in maths (U Chicago, Caltech, Berkeley, CMU,…).
</p>Economist on "I seriously dont understand Ejmr’s obsession with real analysis"
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Fri, 20 Jan 2023 22:10:19 +0000Economist8667005@https://www.econjobrumors.com/<p>ejmr hasn't been obsessed with real analysis for like 5 years. now this board is obsessed with race, gender, dating market, AI
</p>Economist on "I seriously dont understand Ejmr’s obsession with real analysis"
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Fri, 20 Jan 2023 21:56:58 +0000Economist8666990@https://www.econjobrumors.com/<blockquote><p>The median student is a sophomore and youre doing functional analysis? Why would you come to a forum just to tell an obvious lie?
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<p>Well, in France, we started Measure Theory in our first year. Then, we take Functional and Harmonic Analysis in the sophomore year.
</p>Economist on "I seriously dont understand Ejmr’s obsession with real analysis"
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Fri, 20 Jan 2023 20:26:28 +0000Economist8666849@https://www.econjobrumors.com/<p>The median student is a sophomore and youre doing functional analysis? Why would you come to a forum just to tell an obvious lie?
</p>Economist on "I seriously dont understand Ejmr’s obsession with real analysis"
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Fri, 20 Jan 2023 20:22:00 +0000Economist8666842@https://www.econjobrumors.com/<blockquote><p>engineers taking analysis for fun... 90% avg in your class. Going through rudin in ten weeks. none of this ever happened.<br />
Please give us the course name and syllabus.
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<p>It's not uncommon
</p>Economist on "I seriously dont understand Ejmr’s obsession with real analysis"
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Fri, 20 Jan 2023 10:43:04 +0000Economist8665746@https://www.econjobrumors.com/<blockquote><p>Its not that hard. At the lowest level course (which was covered in 10 weeks) we did all of Rudin, the first two chapters of Stein functional analysis and first two chapters of Stein Fourier analysis, which means things like Hilbert Space, dual space, orthogonality,… and all the convergent results in Fourier series. There were around 45 of us. The median student was a second year undergrad. Average grade was like 90%, exam difficulty is at level of the problems in Rudin/ Stein.<br />
I find it funny that economists struggle with these things (or at least those on this site). The ability to do these low level maths doesnt signal anything. And yet most people here struggle with it. Some even decide to do a PhD in political science just because they are terrified at the idea of taking real analysis. Others are less extreme and choose to attend the course rather than taking for credit.<br />
To be honest, while people on this site like to make fun of engineer/ medical students, I never heard of them complaining about the maths. In fact there were more engineers in my class taking analysis for fun, than economists who truly needed it for the admission. Story is the same even for classes that seem totally irrelevant to engineers like number theory<br />
No wonder economics is dying and none is taking it seriously anymore. Most people are not passionate about research at all. At this point you guys are just bunch of 1d10t chasing prestige.<br />
</blockquotunderstand ejmr's obsession</p>
<blockquote><p>Its not that hard. At the lowest level course (which was covered in 10 weeks) we did all of Rudin, the first two chapters of Stein functional analysis and first two chapters of Stein Fourier analysis, which means things like Hilbert Space, dual space, orthogonality,… and all the convergent results in Fourier series. There were around 45 of us. The median student was a second year undergrad. Average grade was like 90%, exam difficulty is at level of the problems in Rudin/ Stein.<br />
I find it funny that economists struggle with these things (or at least those on this site). The ability to do these low level maths doesnt signal anything. And yet most people here struggle with it. Some even decide to do a PhD in political science just because they are terrified at the idea of taking real analysis. Others are less extreme and choose to attend the course rather than taking for credit.<br />
To be honest, while people on this site like to make fun of engineer/ medical students, I never heard of them complaining about the maths. In fact there were more engineers in my class taking analysis for fun, than economists who truly needed it for the admission. Story is the same even for classes that seem totally irrelevant to engineers like number theory<br />
No wonder economics is dying and none is taking it seriously anymore. Most people are not passionate about research at all. At this point you guys are just bunch of 1d10t chasing prestige.
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<p>I do not understand ejmr's obsession with BBC.</p></blockquote>