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Economist ce9b
Those who attack Python on verbosity don't have a single idea of what a namespace means in CS, and why it's important.
Economist b795
Wait, when did we use Python in econ?
Post Python is so verbose, I am annoyed with it and thinking about making the switch to Julia. Verbosity is the dumbest possible reason for this. The *actual* reason to use Julia is if you want your code to run fast without mucking around with Numba or being careful about avoiding overhead. The cost is that Julia doesn't have enough libraries yet and is still buggy. Verbosity used to be a legitimate complaint about Python, when it didn't have an infix matrix multiplication operator. But then it introduced one, eliminating the major case in which Python is annoyingly more verbose. If you are really that irritated about typing the "np" in np.zeros or np.ones or np.max or np.sum, I don't know what to tell you. (Note that Python's default behavior is actually superior on the final two, applying to the entire arrays rather than column-wise unless specified otherwise, which is more often what you want.) You can always make your code do a "from numpy import zeros, ones, max, sum" if this is really so annoying to you, but this is some seriously dumb s**t.
Python is so verbose, I am annoyed with it and thinking about making the switch to Julia. Verbosity is the dumbest possible reason for this. The *actual* reason to use Julia is if you want your code to run fast without mucking around with Numba or being careful about avoiding overhead. The cost is that Julia doesn't have enough libraries yet and is still buggy. Verbosity used to be a legitimate complaint about Python, when it didn't have an infix matrix multiplication operator. But then it introduced one, eliminating the major case in which Python is annoyingly more verbose. If you are really that irritated about typing the "np" in np.zeros or np.ones or np.max or np.sum, I don't know what to tell you. (Note that Python's default behavior is actually superior on the final two, applying to the entire arrays rather than column-wise unless specified otherwise, which is more often what you want.) You can always make your code do a "from numpy import zeros, ones, max, sum" if this is really so annoying to you, but this is some seriously dumb s**t.
Python is so verbose, I am annoyed with it and thinking about making the switch to Julia.
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