d158, nah for them upside stay in America make more money, downside they go back home gain prestige and comfortable life. There's no downside.
Are grad students given frank advice about the realities of academic careers?
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I’m a chaired professor at mrm. I think many young people make their biggest mistake by not sticking closely enough to what they are interested in. You will always do your best work where you have a real interest and you will be the most efficient when you have such interest.
Just my experience. YMMV.I doubt many people tenured at 'MRM' got to where they are by working on what they to work on, when they want to work on it, and let the chips fall. Maybe you are much, much, much more talented, lucky, or networked than the average bear, but I struggle to believe that your experience is typical.
Are you saying this based on your past experience on the job market or mow as you see new grad students? Times have changed, it used to be that you can follow your interests and still end up somewhere, there us much more competition with less accompanying supply of positions that such a strategy is bound to fail
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It's not an MRM if you don't have a PhD program... jfc
I left my MRM job to go to government for less pay (but better location) after my chair left for another school because our taking phd students was immoral. We argued- a bloc of us anyway- that we shouldn’t have a PhD program because our students wouldn’t place. Our admin said no because they needed the PhD students to teach and wouldn’t hire to replace them- either contingent or tt faculty (the school had a tt for teaching faculty too).
It’s immoral to have a PhD program if you have half your students failing the market.