23 people in 2020. Checked. I guess the previous years are the same minus attrition due to people realizing that they are in Bonn.
But sure, the selected 5 guys that survived are very good.
Who is looking at 2020 admissions for job market candidates 2021. Beyond st00pid
I'm super shocked to see that despite being an LRM by US standard, Bonn has a placement record comparable to US top 10 (e.g. two Harvard TT) in 2020.
How did they manage to make it? E.g. Is it because the European structure of PhD promote better supervision? What can US schools learn from their European peers?
bonn is on par with tse/pse/upf already, perhaps even better than the latter group by placement record
I'm super shocked to see that despite being an LRM by US standard, Bonn has a placement record comparable to US top 10 (e.g. two Harvard TT) in 2020.
How did they manage to make it? E.g. Is it because the European structure of PhD promote better supervision? What can US schools learn from their European peers?
They place a lot of weight on the GRE quant, I got this in the spam mail a couple years ago.
Dear XXXXXX,
You have taken the GRE test with very good results. Most probably, your next step will be to find the right graduate school for your further studies.
Your email address was provided to us by ETS through the GRE Search Service. After a first screening, you seem to be a potential candidate for the Bonn Graduate School of Economics (BGSE), Germany. If your GRE score in the quantitative section is 160 or higher, we invite you to apply to our PhD program (with integrated M.Sc. Economic Research).
The BGSE offers a program that combines demanding course work with early individual research in a supportive and intellectually demanding environment. Highly qualified students who are about to finish their bachelor’s or master’s degree in economics or related fields (including mathematics) are invited to apply for admission. General advantages of our program:
· The BGSE does not raise tuition.
· Grants to cover living expenses are available.
· All BGSE activities are conducted in English.
Our student body benefits from an excellent faculty and numerous collaborative research activities as well as from an international network of partner universities. For numerous years, the Department of Economics at the University of Bonn reaches top positions in all major rankings of economics departments in Germany. For more details on the program, application process, and scholarships visit our website: http://www.bgse.uni-bonn.de.
Application deadline is March 31 for the program starting in October of this year.
There is an early admission round for complete applications handed in before February 8, 2019.
Feel free to contact us for more information via email (info.bgse@uni-bonn.de) or phone (+49 228 73 62184).
We are looking forward to your application and wish you good luck!
Best regards from the lovely city of Bonn,
Dr. Silke Kinzig
They have a lot of Germans. Places like HEC and PSE place French well. To a lesser extent Bocconi places Italians well. The key is that they get a decent intake of nationals who prefer staying home/don't even know about international rankings etc... Let me tell you a little secret: do you know what predicts very well a bad placement? The # of azians in the programme!
Why do people enjoy lying? Let me just show you something. Bonn only started to admit 15+ students very recently (in 2017), you can check each cohort size:
* Cohort 2015 (some placed last year already) - 10 students - https://www.bgse.uni-bonn.de/en/people/student-directory/2015
* Cohort 2016 (going on market next year) - 13 students - https://www.bgse.uni-bonn.de/en/people/student-directory/2016
* Cohort 2017 (going on the market in 2 years) - 17 students - https://www.bgse.uni-bonn.de/en/people/student-directory/2017
* Cohort 2018 - 17 students
* Cohort 2019 - 19 students
* Cohort 2020 - 23 students
Also, it is expected that some students have the preference not to stay in academia, and that is also fair and respectable. Excluding 2019, Bonn has consistently placed on average 10 students either in academia or CBs, IMFs, and other research institutions, each year! 10 out of 15 seems pretty good to me. This year, a bit below average, they have 7 on the job market, 4 already placed. Why all the jealousy?
Did you entertain the possibility that the people who appear as "cohort 2015/2016..." on a website **as of 2021** might already be a selected sample - those who stayed until now?
Why do people enjoy lying? Let me just show you something. Bonn only started to admit 15+ students very recently (in 2017), you can check each cohort size:
* Cohort 2015 (some placed last year already) - 10 students - https://www.bgse.uni-bonn.de/en/people/student-directory/2015
* Cohort 2016 (going on market next year) - 13 students - https://www.bgse.uni-bonn.de/en/people/student-directory/2016
* Cohort 2017 (going on the market in 2 years) - 17 students - https://www.bgse.uni-bonn.de/en/people/student-directory/2017
* Cohort 2018 - 17 students
* Cohort 2019 - 19 students
* Cohort 2020 - 23 students
Also, it is expected that some students have the preference not to stay in academia, and that is also fair and respectable. Excluding 2019, Bonn has consistently placed on average 10 students either in academia or CBs, IMFs, and other research institutions, each year! 10 out of 15 seems pretty good to me. This year, a bit below average, they have 7 on the job market, 4 already placed. Why all the jealousy?Did you entertain the possibility that the people who appear as "cohort 2015/2016..." on a website **as of 2021** might already be a selected sample - those who stayed until now?
Did you entertain the possibility that I actually know the number of accepted students and that only after 2017 they started accepting 15+ students?
They did accept around 20 people back in 2015. However, 4 or 5 dropped out during the first year already. I would say cohort 2015 is not the most representative: some are already placed, some are postponing, some of the current JMCs are not even listed in this cohort.
I'm super shocked to see that despite being an LRM by US standard, Bonn has a placement record comparable to US top 10 (e.g. two Harvard TT) in 2020.
How did they manage to make it? E.g. Is it because the European structure of PhD promote better supervision? What can US schools learn from their European peers?
Bonn is MRM by US standard, both in terms of placement and i terms of faulty
I'm super shocked to see that despite being an LRM by US standard, Bonn has a placement record comparable to US top 10 (e.g. two Harvard TT) in 2020.
How did they manage to make it? E.g. Is it because the European structure of PhD promote better supervision? What can US schools learn from their European peers?They place a lot of weight on the GRE quant, I got this in the spam mail a couple years ago.
Dear XXXXXX,
You have taken the GRE test with very good results. Most probably, your next step will be to find the right graduate school for your further studies.
Your email address was provided to us by ETS through the GRE Search Service. After a first screening, you seem to be a potential candidate for the Bonn Graduate School of Economics (BGSE), Germany. If your GRE score in the quantitative section is 160 or higher, we invite you to apply to our PhD program (with integrated M.Sc. Economic Research).
The BGSE offers a program that combines demanding course work with early individual research in a supportive and intellectually demanding environment. Highly qualified students who are about to finish their bachelor’s or master’s degree in economics or related fields (including mathematics) are invited to apply for admission. General advantages of our program:
· The BGSE does not raise tuition.
· Grants to cover living expenses are available.
· All BGSE activities are conducted in English.
Our student body benefits from an excellent faculty and numerous collaborative research activities as well as from an international network of partner universities. For numerous years, the Department of Economics at the University of Bonn reaches top positions in all major rankings of economics departments in Germany. For more details on the program, application process, and scholarships visit our website: http://www.bgse.uni-bonn.de.
Application deadline is March 31 for the program starting in October of this year.
There is an early admission round for complete applications handed in before February 8, 2019.
Feel free to contact us for more information via email (info.bgse@uni-bonn.de) or phone (+49 228 73 62184).
We are looking forward to your application and wish you good luck!
Best regards from the lovely city of Bonn,
Dr. Silke Kinzig
Lol, you are clueless. They do not care about GRE at all. The mean quant score at Bonn is 165 and I have two friends that got into Bonn with a 162 and 163. Bonn is a terrible Uni with a terrible PhD program in a terrible city.
they admit 25 people every year, place 5. Kudos.They don't accept 25 people every year which you could have easily fact-checked before posting:
https://www.bgse.uni-bonn.de/en/people/student-directory
How many European universities are able to place into Harvard??? Their placements have been amazing so no reason to get jealous if your uni isn't as good!The harvard boolsheet is back again!
Stop this man! This has been being repeated to the point where it doesn't seem even funny.
Next time you repeat the Harvard, you go and listen Baby shark twice
Do you have anything else to say other than 'stop this man' if you want to defend your claim? If there is only one Harvard in their placements, fair enough. But more than one isn't a coincidence. And if you are jealous, too bad!!!
Also, let's drop Harvard for a second. Check other places in their placements in the last 5 years and compare them with other universities around the world. And if you cannot see a clear upward trend in their placements which brings Bonn close to top US unis, then go do something else with your life.