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• Thread: 157 Goods vs 67 No Goods

1. Economist
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   The hockey ads are horrible. I stopped watching Hockey Night in Canada because of them.

   If you want to understand who the power brokers are behind mass immigration, just look at scotiabank ads during hockey coverage. The first ad: "hockey is ra/cist, se/xist, etc.". The second ad is about an indian immigrant who just arrived in Canada and opens up a bank account with Scotia. That's basically all you need to know. The big banks and telecom firms are absolutely milking the system and they want that population growth to boost profits. Big pension funds are heavily invested in big banks, Bell Canada, Rogers, etc. to pay for fat boomer pensions. The whole thing is a self-reinforcing mess mainly driven by the need to pay boomers ridiculous pensions. There you have it.

   2 months ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

2. Economist
   635c
   

   I agree with you but here is the problem: immigrants are expensive because they consume a lot of resources like healthcare and schooling. THey have large families and many of them develop health problems due to genetics. So the schools are overloaded and the healthcare system is also overloaded. If you have 3 kids, your wife doesnt work, and you make 50k/year, how much do you think it's going to cost the system to sustain that family? The person is not a net contributor, so the deficit keeps rising. This type of immigration only works in places like the USA that is capitalist with no gov services and no universal healthcare. The same issues are happening in the UK. The fundamental problem is that people, and especially women, refuse to get real jobs. We need plumbers, construction workers, healthcare workers, etc. The Trudeau gov is incredibly good at manipulating the system so they always win elections. They boost employment in big gov, giving preferences to women (fem/ails), while claiming there is a labor shortage to justify more and more immigrants. But at the same time, they know that working class immigrants will bust his budget, so he brings in rich ones to pay taxes. Meanwhile we have huge shortages in healthcare, schooling, construction, etc. Real estate out of control, emergency rooms overflowing, etc. A total dis_aster. Almost every problem in this country can be easily fixed by forcing people to get real jobs instead of cushy white collar ones.

   I have no clue what is going on or why they are doing this. The country is already starting to become a mess.

   Because fertility rates are like 1.5 and trending off a cliff.
   Canada is done. Immigration isn’t going to save it.

   Low skill immigrants become a drain on the system, won't help. Half of immigrants already not productive, I can't imagine what adding another 250K unproductive imm a year is going to do to help...

   Western countries need more service and trades people, low skill healthcare workers, k-12 teachers, and truckers. Last thing we need is more STEM immigrants.

   2 months ago # QUOTE 3 Volod 1 Vlad !

3. Economist
   635c
   

   But it just underscores the attitude. can you believe they willingly show such ads? They are ridiculous. I cringe every time. And yet a huge corporation like that feels comfortable doing it. People in canada are becoming hostile towards yts and openly accept this idea that yt canadians are ra_ci_st and should feel bad about having any power.

   The hockey ads are horrible. I stopped watching Hockey Night in Canada because of them.

   If you want to understand who the power brokers are behind mass immigration, just look at scotiabank ads during hockey coverage. The first ad: "hockey is ra/cist, se/xist, etc.". The second ad is about an indian immigrant who just arrived in Canada and opens up a bank account with Scotia. That's basically all you need to know. The big banks and telecom firms are absolutely milking the system and they want that population growth to boost profits. Big pension funds are heavily invested in big banks, Bell Canada, Rogers, etc. to pay for fat boomer pensions. The whole thing is a self-reinforcing mess mainly driven by the need to pay boomers ridiculous pensions. There you have it.
   

   2 months ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 0 Vlad !

4. Economist
   04cb
   

   I have no clue what is going on or why they are doing this. The country is already starting to become a mess.

   Because fertility rates are like 1.5 and trending off a cliff.
   Canada is done. Immigration isn’t going to save it.

   Low skill immigrants become a drain on the system, won't help. Half of immigrants already not productive, I can't imagine what adding another 250K unproductive imm a year is going to do to help...

   Completely false. Immigrants constantly working underpaid jobs in positions they are overqualified for. Their unemployment numbers are minuscule, especially a few years after landing. Canada essentially exploits immigrants for cheap labor.

   NO WAY

   canadians work hard, especially in the public sector, and immigrants come to sTeAl their houses (at $2mn a piece)

   2 months ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

5. Economist
   04cb
   

   it is an absolute disgrace that someone can come to Canada, obtain a graduate degree and then take away the house of a Canadian public service worker in exchange for a mere $2mn

   2 months ago # QUOTE 4 Volod 1 Vlad !

6. Economist
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   it is an absolute disgrace that someone can come to Canada, obtain a graduate degree and then take away the house of a Canadian public service worker in exchange for a mere $2mn

   And also pay full tuition at the international rate, pay high taxes, and work hard. How is that fair to whyte people who are lazy and dooomb?

   2 months ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 4 Vlad !

7. Economist
   635c
   

   If you think we're so doomb and lazy, why do you move here?

   it is an absolute disgrace that someone can come to Canada, obtain a graduate degree and then take away the house of a Canadian public service worker in exchange for a mere $2mn

   And also pay full tuition at the international rate, pay high taxes, and work hard. How is that fair to whyte people who are lazy and dooomb?

   2 months ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 1 Vlad !

8. Economist
   7366
   

   it is an absolute disgrace that someone can come to Canada, obtain a graduate degree and then take away the house of a Canadian public service worker in exchange for a mere $2mn

   And also pay full tuition at the international rate, pay high taxes, and work hard. How is that fair to whyte people who are lazy and dooomb?

   International rate at most schools enough to cover the total cost?

   2 months ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 0 Vlad !

9. Economist
   635c
   

   Immigrants get sick, have kids, want housing, etc. But they dont want to be teachers, dont want to build homes, and dont want to teach or take care of the elderly. What they want is to get a degree or two, and a cushy white collar job at RBC or Scotiabank. That's the story here. We dont need these people. All they do is inflate real estate and overload the public services.

   it is an absolute disgrace that someone can come to Canada, obtain a graduate degree and then take away the house of a Canadian public service worker in exchange for a mere $2mn

   2 months ago # QUOTE 4 Volod 0 Vlad !

10. Economist
    8d8b
    

    I agree. I want immigrants who will do work that native-born people don't want to do. Import nannies, cleaners, butlers, cab drivers, lawn maintenance workers, etc.

    Immigrants get sick, have kids, want housing, etc. But they dont want to be teachers, dont want to build homes, and dont want to teach or take care of the elderly. What they want is to get a degree or two, and a cushy white collar job at RBC or Scotiabank. That's the story here. We dont need these people. All they do is inflate real estate and overload the public services.

    it is an absolute disgrace that someone can come to Canada, obtain a graduate degree and then take away the house of a Canadian public service worker in exchange for a mere $2mn
    

    2 months ago # QUOTE 3 Volod 1 Vlad !

11. Economist
    635c
    

    see my long post above. this strategy doesnt work.

    I agree. I want immigrants who will do work that native-born people don't want to do. Import nannies, cleaners, butlers, cab drivers, lawn maintenance workers, etc.

    Immigrants get sick, have kids, want housing, etc. But they dont want to be teachers, dont want to build homes, and dont want to teach or take care of the elderly. What they want is to get a degree or two, and a cushy white collar job at RBC or Scotiabank. That's the story here. We dont need these people. All they do is inflate real estate and overload the public services.

    it is an absolute disgrace that someone can come to Canada, obtain a graduate degree and then take away the house of a Canadian public service worker in exchange for a mere $2mn
    

    2 months ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 1 Vlad !

12. Economist
    1f10
    

    I like how you didn’t even bother to have a healthcare related conclusion as you know that healthcare workers are disproportionately immigrants

    Immigrants get sick, have kids, want housing, etc. But they dont want to be teachers, dont want to build homes, and dont want to teach or take care of the elderly. What they want is to get a degree or two, and a cushy white collar job at RBC or Scotiabank.

    2 months ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 1 Vlad !

13. Economist
    1f10
    

    Matter of fact, I had plenty of immigrant teachers and know many people in the trades but almost no native born white

    2 months ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 0 Vlad !

14. Economist
    6d6e
    

    Because it's speaking over each other's heads. I imagine most people thinking migration is too high include all people of migration heritages whereas official data would include someone born in CA, even to immigrant parents, as native. Making comparison to early 20th is also misleading because of the scale involved. There were only 5 million Canadians in 1900 and much of the migration was from the same ancestral origins as existing Canadians.

    no, they weren't. they were Eastern Euros, J's, Italians and Irish (those actually mainly came half a century early and English people considered them barely human - rings a bell?)

    2 months ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

15. Economist
    635c
    

    Just visit the GTA to get a taste of what mass immigration can do to a city. Basically unlivable unless you were born into money.

    2 months ago # QUOTE 2 Volod 0 Vlad !

16. Economist
    6d6e
    

    Half of the immigrants in the early 20th century moved to the middle of nowhere, built their own home and cultivated the land.

    The cities were crawling with immigrants. Toronto's population doubled in a few years just with Irish famine migration and the rhetoric back then was the same: unadaptable, drunk, rebellious, good for nothing, don't speak English, Catholics, etc. ring a bell?

    2 months ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 2 Vlad !

17. Economist
    6d6e
    

    Just visit the GTA to get a taste of what mass immigration can do to a city. Basically unlivable unless you were born into money.

    Think about NY in 1900 and then we'll talk. I lived in To and it was just fine. Rent was high, but it's coming down now.

    2 months ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 1 Vlad !

18. Economist
    6d6e
    

    Immigrants get sick, have kids, want housing, etc. But they dont want to be teachers, dont want to build homes, and dont want to teach or take care of the elderly. What they want is to get a degree or two, and a cushy white collar job at RBC or Scotiabank. That's the story here. We dont need these people. All they do is inflate real estate and overload the public services.

    it is an absolute disgrace that someone can come to Canada, obtain a graduate degree and then take away the house of a Canadian public service worker in exchange for a mere $2mn
    

    Go to a daycare and tell me what % of employees are native-born. Also, who cleans hotels rooms and picks berries at minimum wage? Your narrative is bs.

    2 months ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 3 Vlad !

19. Economist
    1af9
    

    I agree with you but here is the problem: immigrants are expensive because they consume a lot of resources like healthcare and schooling. THey have large families and many of them develop health problems due to genetics.

    Please explain how immigrant genetics create health problems?

    Most arrive skinny af while average local is obese

    2 months ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 3 Vlad !

20. Economist
    7404
    

    Half of the immigrants in the early 20th century moved to the middle of nowhere, built their own home and cultivated the land.

    The cities were crawling with immigrants. Toronto's population doubled in a few years just with Irish famine migration and the rhetoric back then was the same: unadaptable, drunk, rebellious, good for nothing, don't speak English, Catholics, etc. ring a bell?

    White Christians.

    2 months ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

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