Brainwashed people like Global Times
Chinabros, what do you think of Xi Jinping?
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Or you can read the Global Times in English, or even just translate Xinhua. What I see: every article mentions Xi, crediting him for the economy,the navy, etc. It seems a bit silly to a westerner (there is plenty more silliness in our media, but in a different way). So it's easy to assume that Chinese have an underdeveloped political understanding, but it's not the case. My experience is that western trained Chinese academics are smart enough to know what's going on, and smart enough not to run their mouths in front of people they don't trust.
So I should assume no one is expressing their views because they fear the Communist Party is monitoring this website? That's worse than I thought!
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Let's not go off on a tangent: no one wants to express their views on Xi Jinping? Should I assume this reluctance reflects mixed feelings, a reticence to criticize him or quite the opposite, a general appreciation?
Chinabros, your informed opinion would be much appreciatedI can confirm you that CCP govern china really well, they have done things in a very efficient and down to earth way, the quality of people's life has been visible improved. A definite a competent government, and their legal administration is only more justified under Xi's administration given how much the responsibility has been equally fulfilled.
But again, this doesn't matter to your guys, we live in a separate world.
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I can confirm you that CCP govern china really well, they have done things in a very efficient and down to earth way, the quality of people's life has been visible improved. A definite a competent government, and their legal administration is only more justified under Xi's administration given how much the responsibility has been equally fulfilled.
But again, this doesn't matter to your guys, we live in a separate world.China's progress has been impressive, so I don't think it is so hard to believe that the CCP has done something right and its administration was effective. The question is not much about efficiency and administration, is more about Xi's arguably more centralized, approach, his more assertive foreign policy, legal reforms that strengthened his own power. All the things that turned the western world skeptical about Chins. What do you think about that? It doesn't matter to you, or do you think that these are false issues just made up by western media?
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There are inner fights within CCP which are little known to average Chinese. The most famous recent episode was the prosecution of Bo Xilai.
These inner fights ensure the top is always occupied by the best 'elites'. The qualities of 'elite' could be very different from those resulted from the western democracy. But, these fights can guarantee people like T*rump could never be at the top in China.
After all the chaos erupted since he is China's leader, do you have regrets about his leadership? Was this bound to happen or has it have to do with his style of leadership? Do you miss Hu Jintao?
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So I should assume no one is expressing their views because they fear the Communist Party is monitoring this website? That's worse than I thought!
No. I fear those who will call me wumao or brainwashed.
I'm in general an HK sympathizer. I also believe that Xi is popular in mainland. Those who like him have their legitimate reasons, not as brainwashed as some would assume.
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There are inner fights within CCP which are little known to average Chinese. The most famous recent episode was the prosecution of Bo Xilai.
These inner fights ensure the top is always occupied by the best 'elites'. The qualities of 'elite' could be very different from those resulted from the western democracy. But, these fights can guarantee people like T*rump could never be at the top in China.Interesting, thank you. How would you define these qualities? And how are they different from the qualities rewarded in western bureaucracies?
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So I should assume no one is expressing their views because they fear the Communist Party is monitoring this website? That's worse than I thought!
No. I fear those who will call me wumao or brainwashed.
I'm in general an HK sympathizer. I also believe that Xi is popular in mainland. Those who like him have their legitimate reasons, not as brainwashed as some would assume.Exactly, the ejmr bully for chinese are real, they assume we are brainwashed, so why bother to open the mouths
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After all the chaos erupted since he is China's leader, do you have regrets about his leadership? Was this bound to happen or has it have to do with his style of leadership? Do you miss Hu Jintao?
Again, the China describe by the western media and the real China, are completely different worlds.
I am living in china(after 7years in the us and 2 years in europe), but no matter what I say, you wont believe. so why bother to ask?Lord Xi Jinping just credited 50 cents to your account. Keep up the good work, Xiaodong.
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Many Chinese people are concerned that the alternative to supporting the government is a western-style democracy. And many people are very concerned that the outcome of such democracy in China would be disastrous. Look at the kind of leaders the US elect. Imagine what would happen in a country with many people who never voted in their lives. And many tensions between different regions, ethnic groups.
The alternative to not supporting Xi does not seem very appealing to me. I can only say I would perhaps be more comfortable with the party choosing a slow transition towards more democracy than a leadership seeking conflict and authority.
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There are many differences, but I think one of the key differences is that outsiders can never make into politics in China. If you look at the leaders in China after 1949, all of them went through a hell of progress before reaching the top. For example, 33 some years ago, Xi was just the mayor of an unknown town-city Fu'an in eastern Fujian province.
To progress, Chinese politicians don't have to be appealing to their people, but it is critically important for them to be appealing to their direct superiors. And their performance is judged by a very simple rule. 'The Mandarin Model of Growth' by Xiong insightfully summaries the criterion for progression in Chinese politics: the economic tournament.
So, people like Tr*ump, even though they are appealing to some people (even majority), with no governing experience or records can never get into politics in China due to their lack of a voting system for people.
There are inner fights within CCP which are little known to average Chinese. The most famous recent episode was the prosecution of Bo Xilai.
These inner fights ensure the top is always occupied by the best 'elites'. The qualities of 'elite' could be very different from those resulted from the western democracy. But, these fights can guarantee people like T*rump could never be at the top in China.Interesting, thank you. How would you define these qualities? And how are they different from the qualities rewarded in western bureaucracies?
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Many Chinese people are concerned that the alternative to supporting the government is a western-style democracy. And many people are very concerned that the outcome of such democracy in China would be disastrous. Look at the kind of leaders the US elect. Imagine what would happen in a country with many people who never voted in their lives. And many tensions between different regions, ethnic groups.
The alternative to not supporting Xi does not seem very appealing to me. I can only say I would perhaps be more comfortable with the party choosing a slow transition towards more democracy than a leadership seeking conflict and authority.Thanks. And how do you see the current leadership vs. the old one: do you think there is something peculiar about Xi Jinping, and his leadership, that has led to the current deterioration of China's geo-political situation? I mean, even abstracting from a possible gradual transition to democracy, would a different leadership serve better China than Xi Jinping?
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"the old one" is pretty vague, there have been quite a few changes in the last decades.
As you certainly know the main difference is that Xi is staying in power for too long and seems to try to stay even longer. This has the potential to be dangerous. When you feel you have too much power you may be less willing to play it collective perhaps.
Thanks. And how do you see the current leadership vs. the old one: do you think there is something peculiar about Xi Jinping, and his leadership, that has led to the current deterioration of China's geo-political situation? I mean, even abstracting from a possible gradual transition to democracy, would a different leadership serve better China than Xi Jinping?
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Yeah that’s exactly how intellectuals were thinking in imperial China before they were caught up by revolution and angry communists :)
Many Chinese people are concerned that the alternative to supporting the government is a western-style democracy. And many people are very concerned that the outcome of such democracy in China would be disastrous. Look at the kind of leaders the US elect. Imagine what would happen in a country with many people who never voted in their lives. And many tensions between different regions, ethnic groups.
The alternative to not supporting Xi does not seem very appealing to me. I can only say I would perhaps be more comfortable with the party choosing a slow transition towards more democracy than a leadership seeking conflict and authority. -
There were a series of reform in the end of imperial China, including the attempt to become a constitutional monarchy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Qing_reforms
interesting, any link/source?
Yeah that’s exactly how intellectuals were thinking in imperial China before they were caught up by revolution and angry communists :)