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• Thread: 292 Goods vs 101 No Goods

1. Economist
   3d9e
   

   CBS is going to fire up to 80 tenured faculty members across all depts (out of a total of 748 faculty members -- tenured + untenured) by February 5th 2015.

   At the Finance Dept, newly hired profs Andreas Park and Katya Malynova just resigned in protest. They say they can't stay in a place where tenure does not mean tenure. By Danish labor law, tenure just means a contract without end date. There is no tenure in the American sense.

   The Finance Dept at CBS has a couple of positions on the market and they go to the ASSA meetings to interview. But the reality is that they are not sure at all they are going to be able to fulfill offers they eventually make. By Danish labor law, they cannot really hire at the same time of massive lay-offs.
   And even if they hire, tenure-track is a bit of a joke, since there is no real tenure.

   The economics dept at CBS was more prudent and they pulled away from the market this year.

   Anyone knows more on this? Situation is really bleak and worrysome.

   8 years ago # QUOTE 41 Volod 38 Vlad !

2. Economist
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   As far as I know, most of the firings will be in weaker departments some of which are also quite new due to the previous President's aim at creating a "business university" which meant the establishment of some rather odd (for a business school) departments. This were mostly weak and did not attract many students and it was a silly strategy. Thus, at the end of the day, this budget problem is simply due to bad management which went for a stupid strategy. It is quite ironic that a business school excels in bad management.

   8 years ago # QUOTE 11 Volod 4 Vlad !

3. Economist
   7a49
   

   As far as I know, most of the firings will be in weaker departments some of which are also quite new due to the previous President's aim at creating a "business university" which meant the establishment of some rather odd (for a business school) departments. This were mostly weak and did not attract many students and it was a silly strategy. Thus, at the end of the day, this budget problem is simply due to bad management which went for a stupid strategy. It is quite ironic that a business school excels in bad management.

   That is true, but even standard departments like management, econ, and finance have to cut a couple of academic positions.

   8 years ago # QUOTE 6 Volod 0 Vlad !

4. Economist
   60d7
   

   Terrible. Well, at least the offers they make will have to be substantially higher to offset the lack of tenure.

   8 years ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 0 Vlad !

5. Economist
   9d34
   

   CBS to toilet. How can they ever hope to hire decent international faculty again. What a shame

   8 years ago # QUOTE 17 Volod 0 Vlad !

6. Economist
   c151
   

   Good. Those public sector leeches ought to be fired.

   8 years ago # QUOTE 8 Volod 8 Vlad !

7. Economist
   4050
   

   Terrible. Well, at least the offers they make will have to be substantially higher to offset the lack of tenure.

   Not so fast! This is still a public institution and the have a salary scale to follow. Previous offers to international hires were already at the max of the scale (well higher than they offer to a Dane), but still not that competitive internationally. The catch is that people thought tenure meant tenure. It seems the reality is very different now.

   8 years ago # QUOTE 10 Volod 0 Vlad !

8. Economist
   bfcd
   

   CBS - Closet Business School

   8 years ago # QUOTE 2 Volod 4 Vlad !

9. Economist
   1c39
   

   I've applied before to CBS. Thanks God I didn't get it!

   8 years ago # QUOTE 3 Volod 0 Vlad !

10. Economist
    3d9e
    

    Terrible. Well, at least the offers they make will have to be substantially higher to offset the lack of tenure.

    And remember why CBS is trouble s**t right now. It is financial mismanagement. Then there is no way they can afford to pay more. I even wonder if in the unlikely event they get authorization to hire, the Academic Council would let them pay the bonus to international hires (the policy they had until now to be attractive).

    8 years ago # QUOTE 4 Volod 0 Vlad !

11. Economist
    dd47
    

    This is from main danish newspaper Politiken
    http://politiken.dk/indland/uddannelse/ECE2459659/cbs-varsler-besparelser-og-massefyringer/

    "Der er allerede indført ansættelsesstop"
    Which translates into "Hiring freezes have already been introduced"

    8 years ago # QUOTE 4 Volod 0 Vlad !

12. Economist
    3d9e
    

    CBS to toilet. How can they ever hope to hire decent international faculty again. What a shame

    The head of the Finance Dept just added a note to the internal recruitment files saying he is aware they may be able to hire 0, but still wants 'aggressive market strategy' for the show. Danish unions will not allow new hires if there are more than 30 layoffs and current estimate is 80 tenured faculty members fired by February 5th 2015.

    8 years ago # QUOTE 5 Volod 2 Vlad !

13. Economist
    ab6d
    

    But aren't Malynova and Park Assoc. Prof. in Toronto (not trolling)? What do they have to do with CBS?

    At the Finance Dept, newly hired profs Andreas Park and Katya Malynova just resigned in protest. They say they can't stay in a place where tenure does not mean tenure.

    8 years ago # QUOTE 3 Volod 1 Vlad !

14. Economist
    bfcd
    

    SH wrote this? How do you know?

    CBS to toilet. How can they ever hope to hire decent international faculty again. What a shame

    The head of the Finance Dept just added a note to the internal recruitment files saying he is aware they may be able to hire 0, but still wants 'aggressive market strategy' for the show. Danish unions will not allow new hires if there are more than 30 layoffs and current estimate is 80 tenured faculty members fired by February 5th 2015.

    8 years ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

15. Economist
    d3f5
    

    Cool, I got a call from them. Not sure what to do about it

    8 years ago # QUOTE 2 Volod 0 Vlad !

16. Economist
    dd47
    

    They joined some months ago as visiting (according to themselves) but permanent according to CBS. Same applies for Morten S and Lasse P. Both of them are visiting (according to themselves) and permanent (according to CBS).

    But aren't Malynova and Park Assoc. Prof. in Toronto (not trolling)? What do they have to do with CBS?

    At the Finance Dept, newly hired profs Andreas Park and Katya Malynova just resigned in protest. They say they can't stay in a place where tenure does not mean tenure.

    8 years ago # QUOTE 4 Volod 0 Vlad !

17. Economist
    491e
    

    More exactly Park is Visiting and Malinova Associate

    8 years ago # QUOTE 2 Volod 0 Vlad !

18. Economist
    70ce
    

    what do they pay at the assistant professor level by the way?

    8 years ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

19. Economist
    0599
    

    On the plus side, they spent the money on a rather cool website

    8 years ago # QUOTE 3 Volod 0 Vlad !

20. Economist
    864b
    

    Cool, I got a call from them. Not sure what to do about it

    I am sorry. Good luck.

    8 years ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 1 Vlad !

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