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• Thread: 200 Goods vs 120 No Goods

1. Economist
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   Take antidepressants, if your religious beliefs allow you to.

   Get exercise. Daily. You have no idea how much this helps.

   If you don't want to be an academic economist anymore, that's alright! There are countless jobs out there for Econ PhDs that are not academic. If you drop out now, you'll only have a Master's degree, which won't buy you much.

   Finish your coursework, and speak to your supervisor about writing a thesis that will get you out in 4 years. Then go on the market and target the private sector.

   Good luck bro. We're rooting for you!

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2. Economist
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   ^ I forgot: THERAPY. See a therapist that does CBT (cognitive behavior therapy), that's most effective one. If you ever saw those cable shows where they send truly messed up people to CBT therapists, you will see the magic they can work.

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3. Economist
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   Unlike my advice, the suggestion to pursue CBT is sound--if you fall on the Bayesian side of the micturating contests on EJMR. It's a risk. You're playing with your mental health--that is, assuming you can summon the strength to rise from your bed, make an appointment, and show up on time.

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4. Economist
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   OP, this is a common thing. In fact, I went through something similar going through the PhD program - I felt like my brain just wasn't working and I hated my life. Still today, I have ambition inside me but no desire to become a great academician, so I'm stuck. I'm thinking that I will stick with an academic job that is mid-tier, to allow me to do stuff on the side instead of research. Finance is a bit different than Econ, but I can get a decent AP position at a mid school making $135,000 and a AP position at a great school making $175,000. That's a difference of $40,000 that I can make up doing stuff other than research. Stuff that I enjoy more.

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5. Economist
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   OP, this is a common thing. In fact, I went through something similar going through the PhD program - I felt like my brain just wasn't working and I hated my life. Still today, I have ambition inside me but no desire to become a great academician, so I'm stuck. I'm thinking that I will stick with an academic job that is mid-tier, to allow me to do stuff on the side instead of research. Finance is a bit different than Econ, but I can get a decent AP position at a mid school making $135,000 and a AP position at a great school making $175,000. That's a difference of $40,000 that I can make up doing stuff other than research. Stuff that I enjoy more.

   If you are stuck try Moscow, Russia.

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6. Economist
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   Take antidepressants, if your religious beliefs allow you to.

   wtf? MY religious beliefs require me to.

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7. Economist
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   The first thing to do is to take the medication your doctor prescribes. The reason antidepressants are so widely used is that they often work miraculously and their side effects, while sometimes unpleasant, aren't all that serious. If that doesn't work after a month, then you can start thinking about other solutions.

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8. Economist
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   Hello. I'm in your same situation right now. Since I've passed all the exams and done all the coursework, I just need to write a dissertation which is acceptable. The hard part is to talk to your adviser and tell him: "You know something I want to finish this as soon as possible, I don't give a s**t for the academic job market, the publications, etc., I just need a dissertation to get me out of here as quickly as possible..."

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9. Economist
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   good point .. how can we do this the best way? wanna get out of this s**t too. asap

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10. Economist
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    No medicine needed as long as you quit getting live updates from fb, twitter, cnn, and etc...and etc...

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11. Economist
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    I'm a 3rd year PhD at an HRM. The Econ PhD experience was very humbling and not what I expected. I haven't been able to concentrate on anything, and after some persuasion by well meaning friends, I consulted a shrink. He diagnosed me with moderate depression.
    I feel like dropping out. I don't want to become an academic economist. I wanted to do Empirical International Finance, but now I'd much rather just get my health and life back on track.
    What are my options if I drop out? Should I push really hard and somehow just finish my PhD?
    Help me, please. Any advice will be appreciated.

    mild depression? most PhD students have strong depression. Dont be a pussy. The PhD has nothing to do with your depression. You are a 25 year old virgin who is out of shape. work on that.

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12. Economist
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    Dude, take a breath and look at the big picture. As you already knows from your studies, you are part of that 1% which will make it no matter what. Now take an even bigger breath and look with no despite the life of the typical AP. Depression is beneficial in getting "the larger picture", but this gets problematic when you want to actually re-enter inside the picture. You'll find yourself agreeing with the depressed-you which illustrated how simply average academic life is.
    I'm so depressed that I am barely capable to write...

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13. Economist
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    ^you reply after two years? hope op didn't kill self in the interim.

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14. Economist
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    i'd like to know what happened to him\her?

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15. Economist
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    I remember finding this thread when I failed comps my first year. Good stuff.

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16. Economist
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    I am on the same boat too, just finished first year which I have a Msc now and will need another year of Mres to phd.

    The dilemma is I never thought of going into academic, perhaps can't find a good job at the first place. Though the first year was brutal, I managed to get through with a bursary granted. Now after a long holiday from HK, talking to friends, families I get mixed opinions on leaving to work or not... Thoughts were really killing me on whether to leave.

    It feels like if I continue I will not get a girl friend, comparing to friends who are working now they have income and I don't! Although I seems bright by my peer's standard but deep down I am broke. I am still funded by my family and this makes me looks like a daddy's boy by the time I finish at 27... I don't know the job prospect after graduate too. Family pressure counts in too, I know deep down my dad wants me to do it but he will just say it's your choice, when I say I mean it he then gets angry and say something like try finding a good job and you will hate 9 to 5 pm everyday!

    The good thing on doing the first year I found was i gain some valuable skills like read journals, understands theories quicker and somehow I am more motivated and more confident than before in undergraduate. capable to drink 5 cups of coffee everyday. I do find some topic interesting and have never thought of using maths in consumer, producer behavior like Roy's identity, hotellings lemma etc... Never thought macro can be model as in rational expectation which you change some parameter the whole economy goes into boom bust etc lol. Though econometrics was really daunting, like matrix form and those asymptotic lemma... Right now my interest is on market microstructure in financial economics...

    I am not sure should I quit or should I take a year off try work on a perhaps internship/job first or bite the bullet, floor it and keep going, it just feels like everything has it's own advantage as in the axioms in micro suggested lol... Don't know how to tell my advisor about taking a gap year as he might just close the door for me when I say so...

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Post <blockquote><blockquote>For people earnestly looking for help look elsewhere. For troll op: op no good op beta try moscow russia i mean this in the least arrogant way possible That's why I told the OP to take a dose of heroin, because I know that he's a troll here. If he really is in such a situation, he'd turn elsewhere, not here. Obviously his post is an obviously troll. Surprised that most of the people here believed his story and take it seriously</blockquote> He may be a troll, but the situation he describes is, I fear, actually very common, especially at hrm institutions whe the top of the class are going to be frighteningly bright. I suffered from depression in my first year of phd. I perceived some of the material as overly hard, and dealing with it overly stressful. But I persevered. In the end I came top in prelims, and am now an ap at a top 30 school with what I consider to be a decent set of pubs which are likely to get me tenure.</blockquote>

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