Lrm, wh male. Got a tenure track position, had a successful market. Would I have done better as a female or urm and same profile? Maybe. However my experience tells me you can do well on the market even if you don't check the diversity boxes.
Don't attribute your JM failure to DEI
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Not sure what point you're trying to make. More competent candidates are jobless because less competent candidates are hired through DEI in your example as well as in reality. Just because the best candidates are still hired, it doesn't mean that this situation is okay. And it's not okay that the best candidates are getting worse jobs than they would get without DEI either.
Lol at LaShonda downvoting me. How does it feel to not deserve your job?
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Not sure what point you're trying to make. More competent candidates are jobless because less competent candidates are hired through DEI in your example as well as in reality. Just because the best candidates are still hired, it doesn't mean that this situation is okay. And it's not okay that the best candidates are getting worse jobs than they would get without DEI either.
OP here.
All legitimate points. The post was to point out that nonDEI candidates overestimate the effect of DEI on the hiring decision. Even in an extreme version of events, DEI affects the bottom the most. -
Amazing how many mouth-breathers in this “Econ” forum assume a single-dimensional quality index and then claim any outcome not obeying their assumptions must be inefficient.
No wonder you don’t have jobs.Amazing how you can come up with irrelevant inanities to justify a racist policy
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Amazing how many mouth-breathers in this “Econ” forum assume a single-dimensional quality index and then claim any outcome not obeying their assumptions must be inefficient.
No wonder you don’t have jobs.Amazing how you can come up with irrelevant inanities to justify a racist policy
Good luck with your career. I suggest learning some black box ML methods. Less thinking about models required and thinking ain’t your strong suit.
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My department hired two years ago. First offer went to a whyte mLe. He turned us down. Second offer went to a female. Two candidates were below the bar.
One of the below the bar candidates told his cohort he lost the job because of DEI. Now apparently he’s posting on here. So a message to you: it wasn’t DEI. Your talk was terr//ible.
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I’m a first-generation, disabled, poverty class whyte male who made his way to the academic job market, and I’m being told a whyte female from a prep school with a family of professors is somehow more oppressed? Even though 60%+ of college grads are female?
And we call this justice?Sawwy! Your case does not fit our diversity checklist! Try being diverse in a way that we can showcase in a photo :-)
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In your model, 50% URM out of 100 JMCs violates the definition of URM. Weak
Obviously there are not that many. Was just trying to illustrate the mechanics with extreme case.
OMG, OP, you were being serious. Wow. No words. Just, wow.
Try to use words to illustrate the fallacy
*waves generally at everything*
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Not sure what point you're trying to make. More competent candidates are jobless because less competent candidates are hired through DEI in your example as well as in reality. Just because the best candidates are still hired, it doesn't mean that this situation is okay. And it's not okay that the best candidates are getting worse jobs than they would get without DEI either.
OP here.
All legitimate points. The post was to point out that nonDEI candidates overestimate the effect of DEI on the hiring decision. Even in an extreme version of events, DEI affects the bottom the most."It hurts the bottom rung most."
On par with every other leftist policy.
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URM isn’t the relevant category. What is relevant is what the school counts in their diversity categories, and that always includes women. While white and Asian men are still the largest two groups, they are also the only ones who don’t count as diversity hires. So what is the percentage of the market - 30% or more?
In your model, 50% URM out of 100 JMCs violates the definition of URM. Weak
Obviously there are not that many. Was just trying to illustrate the mechanics with extreme case.
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I’m a first-generation, disabled, poverty class whyte male who made his way to the academic job market, and I’m being told a whyte female from a prep school with a family of professors is somehow more oppressed? Even though 60%+ of college grads are female?
And we call this justice?Justice is a masculine idea
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Amazing how many mouth-breathers in this “Econ” forum assume a single-dimensional quality index and then claim any outcome not obeying their assumptions must be inefficient.
No wonder you don’t have jobs.Amazing how you can come up with irrelevant inanities to justify a racist policy
Good luck with your career. I suggest learning some black box ML methods. Less thinking about models required and thinking ain’t your strong suit.
Thanks, I do need luck since I'm not a blkc woman