Don't attribute your JM failure to DEI
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Why do you guys still care about this sinking ship. DEI was the last nail in the coffin. I just treat PhD as my ticket to the US. There are limitless opportunities out there and why you want to become an academic. That’s why I never cared for people calling me a lemon because I cleared 600k last year
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the last nail in the coffin, well said
Why do you guys still care about this sinking ship. DEI was the last nail in the coffin. I just treat PhD as my ticket to the US. There are limitless opportunities out there and why you want to become an academic. That’s why I never cared for people calling me a lemon because I cleared 600k last year
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Why do you guys still care about this sinking ship. DEI was the last nail in the coffin. I just treat PhD as my ticket to the US. There are limitless opportunities out there and why you want to become an academic. That’s why I never cared for people calling me a lemon because I cleared 600k last year
Are you in which industry? Tech or finance? 600k is huge
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Yeah, some schools have a strong preference for DEI hire but there are plenty of schools who hire the best or cannot find a DEI candidate and have to hire the best.
This is where your reasoning is incorrect.
I'm demand-side at a Canadian school. Our Dean will simply not allow us to fill a position with a non-DEI candidate. It simply doesn't matter how good a non-DEI candidate is, the dean's office won't approve it. They gave us the position on the condition of it being filled by a DEI hire, even though that isn't made explicit anywhere in the ad.
So in this case -- and I'm sure many other cases -- a position is reserved exclusively for DEI hires. There is no way for a non-DEI person to be hired regardless of their quality.
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Why do you guys still care about this sinking ship. DEI was the last nail in the coffin. I just treat PhD as my ticket to the US. There are limitless opportunities out there and why you want to become an academic. That’s why I never cared for people calling me a lemon because I cleared 600k last year
Are you in which industry? Tech or finance? 600k is huge
he's in the larping business
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Said an untalented kitty hired at an R1.
Yeah, some schools have a strong preference for DEI hire but there are plenty of schools who hire the best or cannot find a DEI candidate and have to hire the best.
Let me put it this way, the candidates who will be impacted by DEI are the ones at the bottom.
Hear me out.
Say there are 100 job market candidates, of which 50 are URM, and 75 job openings.
Say the top 50 schools are hiring. In an extreme version of DEI, all are taken by URM candidates. That leaves the next 50 schools for non DEI candidates.
If you don't get a job out of these 50 schools, if means you were near the bottom of the non DEI candidates. -
Yeah, some schools have a strong preference for DEI hire but there are plenty of schools who hire the best or cannot find a DEI candidate and have to hire the best.
This is where your reasoning is incorrect.
I'm demand-side at a Canadian school. Our Dean will simply not allow us to fill a position with a non-DEI candidate. It simply doesn't matter how good a non-DEI candidate is, the dean's office won't approve it. They gave us the position on the condition of it being filled by a DEI hire, even though that isn't made explicit anywhere in the ad.
So in this case -- and I'm sure many other cases -- a position is reserved exclusively for DEI hires. There is no way for a non-DEI person to be hired regardless of their quality.uni of Manitoba?
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Yeah, some schools have a strong preference for DEI hire but there are plenty of schools who hire the best or cannot find a DEI candidate and have to hire the best.
This is where your reasoning is incorrect.
I'm demand-side at a Canadian school. Our Dean will simply not allow us to fill a position with a non-DEI candidate. It simply doesn't matter how good a non-DEI candidate is, the dean's office won't approve it. They gave us the position on the condition of it being filled by a DEI hire, even though that isn't made explicit anywhere in the ad.
So in this case -- and I'm sure many other cases -- a position is reserved exclusively for DEI hires. There is no way for a non-DEI person to be hired regardless of their quality.By your argument, no non-DEI candidate would have been hired.
Your school is in the first group. There are many who are in this group. My school is in the second group. And there are many in this group. Hence OP is correct on this premise.
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So the basic premise is that separate and unequal employment tracks are fine, even though clearly illegal?
Yeah, some schools have a strong preference for DEI hire but there are plenty of schools who hire the best or cannot find a DEI candidate and have to hire the best.
This is where your reasoning is incorrect.
I'm demand-side at a Canadian school. Our Dean will simply not allow us to fill a position with a non-DEI candidate. It simply doesn't matter how good a non-DEI candidate is, the dean's office won't approve it. They gave us the position on the condition of it being filled by a DEI hire, even though that isn't made explicit anywhere in the ad.
So in this case -- and I'm sure many other cases -- a position is reserved exclusively for DEI hires. There is no way for a non-DEI person to be hired regardless of their quality.By your argument, no non-DEI candidate would have been hired.
Your school is in the first group. There are many who are in this group. My school is in the second group. And there are many in this group. Hence OP is correct on this premise. -
I’m a first-generation, disabled, poverty class whyte male who made his way to the academic job market, and I’m being told a whyte female from a prep school with a family of professors is somehow more oppressed? Even though 60%+ of college grads are female?
And we call this justice?Sawwy! Your case does not fit our diversity checklist! Try being diverse in a way that we can showcase in a photo :-)
If your disability is that you need extra test time, then I guess that’s a good reason why you did not get hired.
Getting a psychologist to declare students learning disabled and gaming the system for extra test time on the SAT, ACT, GRE and gaining college admission, then gaining PhD admission, doesn’t really make you disable.