Is that true?
Elon Musk says self-study is more efficient than public university's education
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Also, not more efficient even for someone 2sd above average. Imagine trying to learn econometrics if you have no background in stats at all, as most people coming out of HS. Where do you start? You're going to waste a lot of time going down wrong paths.
my guy you can literally check the syllabus for any subject from top universities, that's more than handy to get you started
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Also, not more efficient even for someone 2sd above average. Imagine trying to learn econometrics if you have no background in stats at all, as most people coming out of HS. Where do you start? You're going to waste a lot of time going down wrong paths.
my guy you can literally check the syllabus for any subject from top universities, that's more than handy to get you started
So without the university, you wouldn't be able to do that?
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Depends. If the world was running like it should then the answer would be obviously no as university teaching introduces extra efficiencies by condensing a set of knowledge to a well defined schedule and well defined practice and testing schedules to verify what you retained. But in some places the quality of teaching and the choice of class programs is very bad. More so when it comes to tech stuff where the paradigm shifts every 4 years and faculty are basically regurgitating the same thing they prepared 10 years ago. We've all had at least one or two classes where you know things were either too old or that weren't really properly prepared or the faculty was beyond terrible.
So I'm on the fence with this one.
But Musk is only saying that because he failed out of grad school.
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It’s possible but very rare. If a student came to me and wanted course credit without attending class or submitting work, I’d gladly give them an exam. But it’s never happened.
It’s because ambitious young geniuses aren’t going to go into a fraud social science field like economics, they’re learning to 2 code, doing deep learning, crypto, hard tech, etc.
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as someone who never really paid attention in class and just taught myself everything at home usually before coming to the lecture that day, i can't help but agree. it's only low iq ppl who need lectures/studying from slides because they don't have the reading ability/patience to absorb it straight from 3 or so textbooks on the subject. Only exception was a few things that i bothered writing down in class and I knew exactly what the professor was saying that was new because I knew what was in the books.
As it's now abundantly clear to me from interacting with classmates then later as a TA, most students with degrees can't actually absorb from books, I'd say Ugrad degrees have no value, high schoolers should be able to put their ACT score on their resume and enter white collar work immediately, especially woke-collar jobs that need to be fixed like product manager, HR department, anything with analyst in its name. Pure indoctrination to have it any other way.
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Also, not more efficient even for someone 2sd above average. Imagine trying to learn econometrics if you have no background in stats at all, as most people coming out of HS. Where do you start? You're going to waste a lot of time going down wrong paths.
Nobody needs to know econometrics to have a fulfilling life.
But I see your point.
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It’s possible but very rare. If a student came to me and wanted course credit without attending class or submitting work, I’d gladly give them an exam. But it’s never happened.
It’s because ambitious young geniuses aren’t going to go into a fraud social science field like economics, they’re learning to 2 code, doing deep learning, crypto, hard tech, etc.
I was with you till you said crypto lol
That's this generation's ponzi
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Depends. If the world was running like it should then the answer would be obviously no as university teaching introduces extra efficiencies by condensing a set of knowledge to a well defined schedule and well defined practice and testing schedules to verify what you retained. But in some places the quality of teaching and the choice of class programs is very bad. More so when it comes to tech stuff where the paradigm shifts every 4 years and faculty are basically regurgitating the same thing they prepared 10 years ago. We've all had at least one or two classes where you know things were either too old or that weren't really properly prepared or the faculty was beyond terrible.
So I'm on the fence with this one.
But Musk is only saying that because he failed out of grad school.He didn't fail out, he left during orientation.
You don't think a guy who did undergrad at Penn in physics and Wharton could complete a Stanford engineering PhD if he wanted? Of course he could. It's just not worth his time.