So I am wondering if I should suggest places like theses or similar, or should I let them figure it out on their own?
Leave it to them to come up with a place. They're the ones organizing the flyout. They have a better idea of what's available and what will be most appropriate for everyone.
Thanks. However, my preference is binding. I understand what you are saying about smaller cities and college towns. But I am sure even these places have Golden Corral, Dennys etc. I know these places are not considered 'fine dining'. But they are not exactly McDonald's either. So I am wondering if I should suggest places like theses or similar, or should I let them figure it out on their own?
As for hurting my chances, refusing to rob a bank hurts one's chances of quickly becoming a millionaire. I will live with that. I appreciate your advice though.
Those places are generally not considered appropriate for a flyout dinner, so I would not suggest them. Leave the department decide; they may know something that even if not ideal is a better fit than low-level restaurant chains.
I would however refrain from comparing drinking alcohol to robbing a bank. That would be a HUGE red flag...
Thanks. However, my preference is binding. I understand what you are saying about smaller cities and college towns. But I am sure even these places have Golden Corral, Dennys etc. I know these places are not considered 'fine dining'. But they are not exactly McDonald's either. So I am wondering if I should suggest places like theses or similar, or should I let them figure it out on their own?
As for hurting my chances, refusing to rob a bank hurts one's chances of quickly becoming a millionaire. I will live with that. I appreciate your advice though.Those places are generally not considered appropriate for a flyout dinner, so I would not suggest them. Leave the department decide; they may know something that even if not ideal is a better fit than low-level restaurant chains.
I would however refrain from comparing drinking alcohol to robbing a bank. That would be a HUGE red flag...
Thanks again. Will do as you said.
Wasn't comparing robbing banks and drinking alcohol. Was giving an example to show that everyone has certain morals that are binding. You simply would not rob a bank under any circumstances. I simply will not eat at a place that serves alcohol. That's all. I know this infuriates some people but I am not imposing my views on others.
I would however refrain from comparing drinking alcohol to robbing a bank. That would be a HUGE red flag...
That's not what he was doing. He has religious beliefs that he is not willing to compromise for financial gains. Clearly you and others are not able to understand this on any level. Hence he supplied an example that was not dependent on religious beliefs so that others might understand his uncompromising position.
That this was your conclusion is a HUGE red flag that you're afflicted with moderate mental retardation.
I literally don't know where we could take such a candidate for dinner. Even f***ing Chipotle serves beer.
So, because you're clueless or live in a town where the bowling alley has the restaurant in town, that must also be the way the rest of the world is?
If you're not a high school dropout troll, then you are one dumb fvk.
Just for understanding.
Is it the possibility of physical contact?
Otherwise it may be the same in a supermarket? L:iving in a neighborhood or city?
Just try to understand. I know that its true for food consumption in a lot of religions.
In Islam as most people agree on it, you're not allowed to sit at a table where there's alcohol being served. Now, religions being what they are, there's no exact definitions. You have to understand that back in the day there was no social mixing: Non-religious people would drink alcohol, and so then of course everyone in that house would do it. The idea that a house might serve alcohol, but a whole group would choose to refrain from it was pretty much inconceivable -- in many of the texts, no big difference is being made between no alcohol at the table, and no alcohol at the house/place.
I literally don't know where we could take such a candidate for dinner. Even f***ing Chipotle serves beer.So, because you're clueless or live in a town where the bowling alley has the restaurant in town, that must also be the way the rest of the world is?
If you're not a high school dropout troll, then you are one dumb fvk.
God you're illiterate. I'm talking about my town, not the rest of the world.
OP all kind of upscale restaurants serve alcohol. Their only option is to take you to some cheap fast good restaurants, which doesn’t look nice on you and them. Go to their suggested restaurant. You don’t have to drink. You don’t have to explain anything just if they offer you drink just say thanks I’m fine.
I hope for your sake that it’s a really highly ranked department or a UUUUVLRM. HRM cares not about whether you’d socialize with the department. UUUUVLRM will just be desperate for someone to accept. Everyone else will subconsciously penalize you for this.
Serious suggestion: have you considered targeting areas or countries where such religious observations are more common?
OP all kind of upscale restaurants serve alcohol. Their only option is to take you to some cheap fast good restaurants, which doesn’t look nice on you and them. Go to their suggested restaurant. You don’t have to drink. You don’t have to explain anything just if they offer you drink just say thanks I’m fine.
You must have never left your white Christian home town.
Judaism, Islam, Jainism, Hinduism, some types of Buddhism, and many other religions all have dietary laws that would prevent strict adherents from eating in public restaurants that don't specifically follow their rules. Yet, I know successful faculty who are strict adherents to these religions who have managed to land jobs and be successful professors.
University faculty tend to be fairly aware that the world is full of talented scholars who have dietary restrictions for various religious and medical reasons that prevent them from going to restaurants. They respect this.
Even if it means booking a meeting room at a nice hotel and having food prepared in a certain way, it will be done.
OP all kind of upscale restaurants serve alcohol. Their only option is to take you to some cheap fast good restaurants, which doesn’t look nice on you and them. Go to their suggested restaurant. You don’t have to drink. You don’t have to explain anything just if they offer you drink just say thanks I’m fine.You must have never left your white Christian home town.
Judaism, Islam, Jainism, Hinduism, some types of Buddhism, and many other religions all have dietary laws that would prevent strict adherents from eating in public restaurants that don't specifically follow their rules. Yet, I know successful faculty who are strict adherents to these religions who have managed to land jobs and be successful professors.
University faculty tend to be fairly aware that the world is full of talented scholars who have dietary restrictions for various religious and medical reasons that prevent them from going to restaurants. They respect this.
Even if it means booking a meeting room at a nice hotel and having food prepared in a certain way, it will be done.
Oh what a talented scholar!
I disagree. I am really sorry for the OP but this will impact his job market. and it is not about not liking religious people, I could not care less. The issue is externalities. I would not want to hire somebody that would force me to stop having my nice glass of wine when I have to go to seminar dinners. Sorry. I know I can drink some other time, but if you take that from me you are making these dinners more painful.
I think you simply tell them about your restrictions, and probably you also explain that it is because of religious reasons. To make it easy for the department you visit, I suggest you let them know before you arrive. I do not see in which way they may be offended. Similarly, I do not think this will impact your chances. Hope this helps