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1. Economist
   af08
   

   For religious reasons, I don't drink and neither do I eat at places where they serve alcohol. What is the most appropriate way to ask to hold the flyout dinner at a place where they don't serve alcohol?

   I will be happy to make suggestions of names of restaurants to them, but again that is only if it is appropriate. If they want to choose something on their own, I don't care where I eat as long as they don't serve alcohol.

   To trollers who will say I will fail the job market or that you hate teetotalers or religious people, thank you in advance for your kind advice and expression of your preferences. Now you can save your precious time and post in some other thread.

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2. Economist
   3f6b
   

   Say this:

   "For religious reasons, I do not drink and neither do I eat at places that serve alcohol. I hope this will not be too much of an inconvenience."

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3. Economist
   b3c5
   

   For religious reasons, I don't drink and neither do I eat at places where they serve alcohol. What is the most appropriate way to ask to hold the flyout dinner at a place where they don't serve alcohol?
   I will be happy to make suggestions of names of restaurants to them, but again that is only if it is appropriate. If they want to choose something on their own, I don't care where I eat as long as they don't serve alcohol.
   To trollers who will say I will fail the job market or that you hate teetotalers or religious people, thank you in advance for your kind advice and expression of your preferences. Now you can save your precious time and post in some other thread.

   Weird. I wonder if people that don't eat pork for religious reasons or don't eat meat at all for ideological (for lack of a better word) reasons ever happen to refuse to eat in a place that serves it even if they can order an alternative.

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4. Economist
   3f45
   

   I think you simply tell them about your restrictions, and probably you also explain that it is because of religious reasons. To make it easy for the department you visit, I suggest you let them know before you arrive. I do not see in which way they may be offended. Similarly, I do not think this will impact your chances. Hope this helps

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5. Economist
   08a0
   

   in US, Utah?

   You know the concept of externalities. For faculty a dinner is mor ethan get to know you. That is the time they can enjoy themselves a bit.
   You impose negative externalities on them. It is absolutely no problem not to drink. But telling them that they are not allowed to drink. Honestly, just think a candidate would ask you to only make the dinner in a local brewery.

   If you are so serious I would try to opt out and ask to make a long lunch instead. Or the best: Just go where they go and do not drink and try to oversee it.

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6. Economist
   3dec
   

   When making a flyout schedule a department admin will usually get in touch to check on dietary restrictions. That would be the place to bring this up, or if you don’t want to explain, do a little research on the town and make a couple recommendations.

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7. Economist
   b3c5
   

   Also, OP, and I'm not trolling, be very careful if you ever come to europe. In some countries -while you may be perfectly fine not ordering alcohol- finding a place that doesn't have it at all may actually be very hard.

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8. Economist
   08a0
   

   Also, OP, and I'm not trolling, be very careful if you ever come to europe. In some countries -while you may be perfectly fine not ordering alcohol- finding a place that doesn't have it at all may actually be very hard.

   impossible
   - Bocconibro

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9. Economist
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   Also, OP, and I'm not trolling, be very careful if you ever come to europe. In some countries -while you may be perfectly fine not ordering alcohol- finding a place that doesn't have it at all may actually be very hard.

   No kidding. In Spain you couldn't even go to Mcdonalds.

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10. Economist
    3f6b
    

    Weird. I wonder if people that don't eat pork for religious reasons or don't eat meat at all for ideological (for lack of a better word) reasons ever happen to refuse to eat in a place that serves it even if they can order an alternative.

    Yes

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11. Economist
    b3c5
    

    Weird. I wonder if people that don't eat pork for religious reasons or don't eat meat at all for ideological (for lack of a better word) reasons ever happen to refuse to eat in a place that serves it even if they can order an alternative.

    Yes

    Out of curiosity. Is it because they fear a mixing of the ingredients (perhaps just in minimal quantities if the same kitchen tools are used) or out of something even more dogmatic that forbids them to eat in those places at all, even if they could be sure about what they eat themselves?

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12. Economist
    e222
    

    Say this:
    "For religious reasons, I do not drink and neither do I eat at places that serve alcohol. I hope this will not be too much of an inconvenience."

    This.

    I am curious what religion also asks that you avoid places that serve alcohol.

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13. Economist
    3f6b
    

    Weird. I wonder if people that don't eat pork for religious reasons or don't eat meat at all for ideological (for lack of a better word) reasons ever happen to refuse to eat in a place that serves it even if they can order an alternative.

    Yes

    Out of curiosity. Is it because they fear a mixing of the ingredients (perhaps just in minimal quantities if the same kitchen tools are used) or out of something even more dogmatic that forbids them to eat in those places at all, even if they could be sure about what they eat themselves?

    For one religion and one example, look up Kashrut (Jewish dietary laws). Utensils, pots/pans, and other cooking surfaces that have come into contact with meat may not be used with dairy, and vice versa. Hence, unless a restaurant abides by this, a Jewish person who adheres to this would not be able to eat there.

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14. Economist
    59da
    

    Tell them you're in AA and 5 years sober.

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15. Economist
    c061
    

    ljl at this

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16. Economist
    5919
    

    Ask yourself: would this place an unnecessary burden on the department? If the answer is yes, refrain from mentioning it. If the answer is maybe, mention it as a non-binding preference. In many college towns and even smaller cities your demand would be nearly impossible to satisfy.

    Said that, be very careful with bringing this up. If the department is highly collegial, this may hurt your chances.

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17. Economist
    08a0
    

    also. Consider what teh department thinks about future:
    -will you never go out with seminar speakers
    -will you join the department christmas or summer party of autumn kick off
    - in a smaller town: can one invite you and your family for a dinenr?

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18. Economist
    d9e5
    

    Also, OP, and I'm not trolling, be very careful if you ever come to europe. In some countries -while you may be perfectly fine not ordering alcohol- finding a place that doesn't have it at all may actually be very hard.

    No kidding. In Spain you couldn't even go to Mcdonalds.

    Most universities even serve alcohol (in Europe), would you be able to work there?

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19. Economist
    af08
    

    Ask yourself: would this place an unnecessary burden on the department? If the answer is yes, refrain from mentioning it. If the answer is maybe, mention it as a non-binding preference. In many college towns and even smaller cities your demand would be nearly impossible to satisfy.
    Said that, be very careful with bringing this up. If the department is highly collegial, this may hurt your chances.

    Thanks. However, my preference is binding. I understand what you are saying about smaller cities and college towns. But I am sure even these places have Golden Corral, Dennys etc. I know these places are not considered 'fine dining'. But they are not exactly McDonald's either. So I am wondering if I should suggest places like theses or similar, or should I let them figure it out on their own?

    As for hurting my chances, refusing to rob a bank hurts one's chances of quickly becoming a millionaire. I will live with that. I appreciate your advice though.

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20. Economist
    08a0
    

    maybe the dean is joing you. Gonna be great at Dennys

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