you're getting boosted every 3-6 months ... we don't even know the short term effects of that.
Fully vaxxed man in California tests positive for Omicron
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Look up how asbestos causes cancer in latency periods of +15 years. Small cellular changes are incredibly hard to detect before they are noticeable in a macroscopic scale (at which point is too late, that's why most cancers are already at an advance state when detected). Biology is an experimental science, is not like mathematics where you can prove statements with absolute certainty.
It is not hand-waived. You will not have a dormant piece of mRNA lying around which gets activated 5 years later by coincidence and suddenly causes cancer. This idea is bogus and there is not a single vaccine or other medication that affects the body this way in the "long term". All pharmaceutical products that have actual long-term effects also have measurable effects in the build-up to the long term. It is completely out of the current scientific scope to assume that there will be long term consequences. Of course, you can refute the collective wisdom of science on the basis that many things known to be false today have once been claimed by science. But I am not sure whether this is a good model for a society.
I'm a HRM and you'd have to be blind to not see that the vaccine only offers a meaningful risk reduction for very old people (+70).
Other than that, there is not even conclusive evidence of reduced transmission risk which is the only rationale behind mandates.
The "vaccine" is at best a flimsy prophylactic that works mostly in improving outcomes for the very old. No logic whatsoever on forcing these on kids or any other population not at risk of death.I disagree partly. Mitigation of hospital burden is the main rationale behind the mandates, not just reducing transmission. And I'm not saying you have to agree with the current policy (I don’t either). I'm strictly talking about vaccine safety and the highly-upvoted posts on here that claim that the mrna vaccines will kill you in a few years, turn you into a walking bag of comorbidities, etc. I'm curious to know why so many people actually feel that way since I presume this site mostly attracts academics who (I think) would know better.
Even with the rational of reducing hospital burden the solution is again only "vaccinate" the population at risk (this is always the solution in any crappy model of infection you come up with with the objective function of minimizing hospital load). Global vaccination only works for sterilizing vaccines (which again there is no evidence).
The long-term effects is actually a legitimate discussion (that is often trivialized equating anyone asking these as a "flat-earther"). If you are a scientist you should know that the only way to test whether or not there are long-term effects is having a treatment and control groups over an extended period of time. For example, whether the vaccine increases the risk of cancer 5 to 10 years down the road cannot be handwaived by the lazy answer of saying "there is no evidence of long-term effects, therefore the vaccines are safe". It's like saying that printing money today won't cause inflation in 5 years because the prices remain the same today.
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Look up how asbestos causes cancer in latency periods of +15 years. Small cellular changes are incredibly hard to detect before they are noticeable in a macroscopic scale (at which point is too late, that's why most cancers are already at an advance state when detected). Biology is an experimental science, is not like mathematics where you can prove statements with absolute certainty.
Do you apply this level of scrutiny do every kind of food that you consum or anything else that you do?
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Look up how asbestos causes cancer in latency periods of +15 years. Small cellular changes are incredibly hard to detect before they are noticeable in a macroscopic scale (at which point is too late, that's why most cancers are already at an advance state when detected). Biology is an experimental science, is not like mathematics where you can prove statements with absolute certainty.
Do you apply this level of scrutiny do every kind of food that you consum or anything else that you do?
I see. You don't think this level of scrutiny should be given to a treatment that they are planning to give to the majority of humanity.
Science is doomed because it suddenly became a religion. In the old days you could question and try to prove old theories wrong. That time is long gone sadly.
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I have only one thing to say:
Intelligent people don't speak in absolutes.
Doesn't matter if they have a PhD or HRM or LRM or whatever.
When we look back on this episode in 50 years, God willing, only then will we know if we as a society made the right choices. For my money, I believe it will be clear that we overreacted. At least a bit, likely a lot.
But of course, I could be wrong.
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Look up how asbestos causes cancer in latency periods of +15 years. Small cellular changes are incredibly hard to detect before they are noticeable in a macroscopic scale (at which point is too late, that's why most cancers are already at an advance state when detected). Biology is an experimental science, is not like mathematics where you can prove statements with absolute certainty.
Do you apply this level of scrutiny do every kind of food that you consum or anything else that you do?
I see. You don't think this level of scrutiny should be given to a treatment that they are planning to give to the majority of humanity.
Science is doomed because it suddenly became a religion. In the old days you could question and try to prove old theories wrong. That time is long gone sadly.The amount of meat you are eating is most likely worse for your health than the covid vacine can ever be.
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pureblood here. i would never do that. and btw nothing has happened to me or my family regarding masks, mandates, vax, etc. we are living like there is no covid and have been since june 2020. red state ftw
Good luck not spending the final 3 months of your life intubated in a hospital
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You really believe all of this, don't you?
pureblood here. i would never do that. and btw nothing has happened to me or my family regarding masks, mandates, vax, etc. we are living like there is no covid and have been since june 2020. red state ftw
Good luck not spending the final 3 months of your life intubated in a hospital
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The long-term effects is actually a legitimate discussion (that is often trivialized equating anyone asking these as a "flat-earther"). If you are a scientist you should know that the only way to test whether or not there are long-term effects is having a treatment and control groups over an extended period of time.
You can apply this type of argument to any new drug. "We really can't know for sure the long-term effects of this new drug until 30 years later, so let's just wait until then and sit on our hands". That's not how it works, kid. There's plenty of evidence already to support the premise that there are no long-term effects from the mRNA vaccine. Every treatment, every aspirin you take, carries risk. Aspirin has a much worse side effects track record than the covid vaccine does.