Alive and well
Unconscious bias is evilUnconscious bias doesn't exist.
Georgetown law professor fired for accidentally blurting out the truth
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Pro tip: don’t be a bigot. Keep your job. Seems simple.
Pro tip: go back to Africa.
Again, don’t say this on video buddy. But have fun in this anonymous forum. You scored a racism point today! Thumbs up!
Go to any country outside America or UK. You will be called an @p..e to your face if thats what you want.
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Ask Georgetown how the LSAT scores and law school grades of their students correlate with their race. Georgetown will never release this information. It would show exactly what you think it would show. And you cannot possible attribute it entirely, or even mostly, to bias (implicit or explicit). AA has to take some of the blame. AA leads to this by DESIGN.
Correct. Conversely, if everyone is held against the same standard in admission, then statistically significant racial difference shouldnt exist in your classroom, unless you or your institution are really a raxist.
This is not true, because it isn’t like there couldn’t be a distribution of those above the bar for admission. So you could have one group clustered just over the bar and another with a broader distribution above the bar, leading to quite different averages.
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Isn’t what she said precisely why we have AA? How is that outrageous? What am I missing?
Saying it out loud in front of students is a huuuge error in judgment. She didn’t mean to, but without tenure she’s toast.
If what she said is true, who is permitted to say so and when?
I'd be more sympathetic if she'd said it topically, but the offhand remark to a colleague after a class, apparently in reference to some silly things some specific students had said, is bound to be hurtful. Her only excuse is that she thought the mic was off.
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Isn’t what she said precisely why we have AA? How is that outrageous? What am I missing?
Saying it out loud in front of students is a huuuge error in judgment. She didn’t mean to, but without tenure she’s toast.
If what she said is true, who is permitted to say so and when?
I'd be more sympathetic if she'd said it topically, but the offhand remark to a colleague after a class, apparently in reference to some silly things some specific students had said, is bound to be hurtful. Her only excuse is that she thought the mic was off.
She is not a full time academic but someone from a law practice adjuncting.
I bet she is a typical liberal who believed the media brainwashing that says there is no difference in performance between groups.
Then she found out what reality in the classroom looks like. Test scores don't lie. If a group performs poorly on the test scores, they will perform poorly in the classroom.
She wasn't conditioned to the lying and self-censorship that academics have to undergo in order to survive.
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Do people seriously believe that the main reason why bla.ck,s do poorly in post graduate programs like law and medicine is because of unconscious bias ? Have you not graded a class before? It’s always the case that the top and bottom of the distribution are occupied by two different minority groups where one is currently getting away with violent assaults during broad daylight on the other group.
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Pro tip: don’t be a bigot. Keep your job. Seems simple.
Pro tip: go back to Africa.
Again, don’t say this on video buddy. But have fun in this anonymous forum. You scored a racism point today! Thumbs up!
Go to any country outside America or UK. You will be called an @p..e to your face if thats what you want.
I’m 6’6” and 260 lbs. No one says this to myself face. Lol. (Also i lived in China, Thailand and travelled extensively...never saw this.) but again, if I were you I’d lower some of that bigotry and try to keep my job.
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Pro tip: don’t be a bigot. Keep your job. Seems simple.
Making factual statements about group performance is not bigotry. This sort of take works as a form of signalling on Twitter but is silly on EJMR!
Right. Because EJMR is a place for anonymous cowardice. Got it. Still, my point stands, it’s easier to keep your job if you’re not a bigot.
Making factual statements about performance is not bigotry.
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W hite person does poorly: he did poorly.
B lack person does poorly: they did poorly.
That’s the bigotry.Except you guys (American b-lack ppl) do poor job academically all across the board: from day care to grad school, regardless of your family income, upbringing, etc.
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W hite person does poorly: he did poorly.
B lack person does poorly: they did poorly.
That’s the bigotry.Except you guys (American b-lack ppl) do poor job academically all across the board: from day care to grad school, regardless of your family income, upbringing, etc.
Here’s the thing, and I want to make this plain. I know I’m better than you. I know my SAT was higher. I know my grades were higher. I know my GMAT/ GRE was higher. I know I if we were in the same classes I would have crushed you. I know this BECAUSE I am Black in these “meritocratic” spaces and to get in and succeed I had to be better than my white and Asian counterparts. This is the case for most Black Americans in these spaces. This is why I think these things are so funny. You’re convinced Black people are inferior, I’m convinced that we have to overcome racism, and do that we have to be more talented than you can imagine. But if it makes you feel better to believe in bigoted ideas, I suggest you keep them to yourself, lest you wind up like this adjunct- fired.
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If it's an empirically true statement, how is it racist? I don't get it - she even seems annoyed by the fact.
If she had followed up with something like "what can we do to help them or change this situation" that would have maybe been okay, but she said something like "it drives me crazy, some of them are good but usually they're just plain at the bottom". So it seemed more like she was just complaining about black people being at the bottom rather than trying to figure out how to solve the problem constructively.
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Fact is, statistics tell us that there has been a specific demographic group underperforming at all levels. It is a societal problem, yes, but it is not the responsibility of academia to solve it (not that we could, anyway, from the disastrous results of what we see now). We shouldn't lower the bars and freely dish out participation stickers at the expense of others who have earnt their place, fair and square. That is not our burden to bear.