Shouldn't we look at points/author to rank departments?
LMU not even near top in this case.
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Here the top 10 in Germany according to 5 year research output.
There is quite some heterogeneity:
1. Holger Strulik : no top 5 pub…
2. Tobias Berg: OK, has one JF
3. Florian Zimmermann: top
4. Philipp Strack: top
5. Roland Strausz: top top
6. Hasan Iftekhar: well…
7. Florian Scheuer: top top
8. Christoph Rothe: top
9. Stephan Lauermann: top
10. Klaus Adam: topWhere is Rainer Haselmann? Nowhere?
Haselmann bohrt dicke Bretter: https://safe-frankfurt.de/news-media/all-news/news-view/rainer-haselmann-receives-research-award.html
Wow. 30k and Laudation for a dude not even among top 100 German economists. By qny of the rankings.
How did he manage that?Buddy of Inderst who was head of the prize committee.
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Where is Rainer Haselmann? Nowhere?
Haselmann bohrt dicke Bretter: https://safe-frankfurt.de/news-media/all-news/news-view/rainer-haselmann-receives-research-award.htmlWow. 30k and Laudation for a dude not even among top 100 German economists. By qny of the rankings.
How did he manage that?Buddy of Inderst who was head of the prize committee.
Who else was in the committee?
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Where is Rainer Haselmann? Nowhere?
Haselmann bohrt dicke Bretter: https://safe-frankfurt.de/news-media/all-news/news-view/rainer-haselmann-receives-research-award.html
Wow. 30k and Laudation for a dude not even among top 100 German economists. By qny of the rankings.
How did he manage that?Buddy of Inderst who was head of the prize committee.
Seriously? So corrupt!
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You can divide points by number of authors. I did that for the ranking with only A and A+ pubs to avoid quantity bias, it changes quite a bit: Zurich and Lausanne tied for first place detached, Mannheim and Bonn overtaken (if slightly) also by EPFL and Lugano (Swiss strong)
1. Zurich .87
2. Lausanne .86
3. EPFL .63
4. Lugano USI .62
5. Mannheim .54
6. Bonn .53
7. Frankfurt SFM .46
8. Frankfurt Goethe .41
9. Geneva Grad Institute .40
10. Geneva Uni .34Shouldn't we look at points/author to rank departments?
Forschungsmonitoring does not have the functionality to do this, right?
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Nope, it's more complicated -- see above. First Zurich and Lausanne, then EPFL and USI, then Mannheim and Bonn
Go to Forschungsmonitoring.org and play with the rankings. Interestingly if you choose "SJR weights considering just A+ publications" or "SJR weights considering just A and A+ publications", then Mannheim and Bonn rank above LMU. So it's the large number of mediocre pubs that does it for LMU. Otherwise, it's Zurich, then Mannheim, then Bonn.
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It is even more complicated. It is difficult to believe that every researcher at LMU wrote 16 published articles (1334 / 84) in a ranked journal. I mean Potrafke, sure, but all the others?
Potrafke alone has 122 articles (almost one tenth of all the LMU output).
Regarding LMU in general: the fact that it lists 84 researchers with publications just shows that LMU is very consistent in listing everybody, including all the people at ifo, all the postdocs, permanent ifo researchers, even PhD students with some publications. There is simply a long tail of people. Dividing by 84 is a bit misleading here. If you were to count only the senior researchers, I think there are about 16 professors at the department plus 9 or 10 more at ifo. Overall, the number of active researchers is probably similar to most other departments.
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Would be bad for LMU if they lost him to a US top 10 place. How does he manage to be so productive?
It is even more complicated. It is difficult to believe that every researcher at LMU wrote 16 published articles (1334 / 84) in a ranked journal. I mean Potrafke, sure, but all the others?
Potrafke alone has 122 articles (almost one tenth of all the LMU output).
Regarding LMU in general: the fact that it lists 84 researchers with publications just shows that LMU is very consistent in listing everybody, including all the people at ifo, all the postdocs, permanent ifo researchers, even PhD students with some publications. There is simply a long tail of people. Dividing by 84 is a bit misleading here. If you were to count only the senior researchers, I think there are about 16 professors at the department plus 9 or 10 more at ifo. Overall, the number of active researchers is probably similar to most other departments. -
But even with Potrafke out, the number seems impossible. Is that if you have three co-authors on one paper at one institution this paper is counted three times? Then the 120 publication of Potrafke quickly scale to 300 or more.
If every paper has 2.5 coauthors, this would mean 6.5 publications per researcher in 5 years. that sounds in the right ballpark.
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Potrafke is the Chuck Norris of economics. For him an R&R means that journals revise their aims & scope to better fit the paper he submitted.
Would be bad for LMU if they lost him to a US top 10 place. How does he manage to be so productive?
It is even more complicated. It is difficult to believe that every researcher at LMU wrote 16 published articles (1334 / 84) in a ranked journal. I mean Potrafke, sure, but all the others?
Potrafke alone has 122 articles (almost one tenth of all the LMU output).
Regarding LMU in general: the fact that it lists 84 researchers with publications just shows that LMU is very consistent in listing everybody, including all the people at ifo, all the postdocs, permanent ifo researchers, even PhD students with some publications. There is simply a long tail of people. Dividing by 84 is a bit misleading here. If you were to count only the senior researchers, I think there are about 16 professors at the department plus 9 or 10 more at ifo. Overall, the number of active researchers is probably similar to most other departments.