Gut zu wissen, dass Rudi noch nie menstruiert hat.
Geebus. Stop being so obsessed with the guy.
German Market
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There is an upper bound of roughly 180k to the official professor salaries in Germany. But it can be exceeded in exceptional cases. I know cases, not even all in economics, who make more than 200k.
Then in addition, some universities can pay top-ups using softer money. Mannheim is an example. That's how things can add up for top shots. (Think of Leibniz prize winners such as NFS or Tertilt, or people who hold an Alexander von Humboldt professorship). Still far away from what the well-known people, say, in Zurich make, but not completely noncompetitive either.
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You think NFS and Tertilt make > 200k?
There is an upper bound of roughly 180k to the official professor salaries in Germany. But it can be exceeded in exceptional cases. I know cases, not even all in economics, who make more than 200k.
Then in addition, some universities can pay top-ups using softer money. Mannheim is an example. That's how things can add up for top shots. (Think of Leibniz prize winners such as NFS or Tertilt, or people who hold an Alexander von Humboldt professorship). Still far away from what the well-known people, say, in Zurich make, but not completely noncompetitive either. -
You seem to be an uninformed outsider. There are always exceptions to the cantonal upper bounds, and UBS of SFI chairs are not bound by them anyways...
Bulls**t... In Switzerland salaries are given on Kanton level and you can look them up.
In Mannheim nobody makes it not even close to those figures.Superstar in Germany can make 250-300k. In Switzerland 400-500k.
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You seem to be an uninformed idiot.
The Kanton level is binding. Of course, it can be extended by private funds.
UBS chairs? How many are those? Is it private money?
You seem to be an uninformed outsider. There are always exceptions to the cantonal upper bounds, and UBS of SFI chairs are not bound by them anyways...
Bulls**t... In Switzerland salaries are given on Kanton level and you can look them up.
In Mannheim nobody makes it not even close to those figures.Superstar in Germany can make 250-300k. In Switzerland 400-500k.
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Not true. ETH for instance has an official salary upper bound of 280k for professors. But then the law says that in exceptional cases, one can go up to 25% higher than that upper bound. So really the (binding) upper bound is 350k. Many other Swiss universities have similar rules and exceptions. And then add whatever private money. SFI topups are usually 100k.
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These are average salaries by state in Germany:
Including all supplements ("Grundgehälter, Familienzuschläge, diverse Leistungsbezüge, zum Beispiel aus Anlass von Berufungen, sowie Sonderzahlungen"). So the best-paying state is Bavaria with 9190 gross per month (the only state paying more than 9k). So the average W3 wage is (I think it's 12.5 "Monatsgehälter" in most states, but correct me if you have better information) 9190*12.5=115k. In other states more like 105-110k.
Now these are average salaries across all departments. In general, in Germany there are no big differences across departments (at least, not as much as in the US), but probably in econ one would expect somewhat higher salaries. I would be surprised if average salaries were above 120k, though.
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Exceptional cases... this is a Fields Medal or Nobel Prize and nothing far below this. So a ridiculous discussion.
Not true. ETH for instance has an official salary upper bound of 280k for professors. But then the law says that in exceptional cases, one can go up to 25% higher than that upper bound. So really the (binding) upper bound is 350k. Many other Swiss universities have similar rules and exceptions. And then add whatever private money. SFI topups are usually 100k.
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For your first call you can expect the base salary (and maybe a small amount Leistunbsbezüge.) That's is.
Further calls will give you a raise, but only modest one. People here seem to think that raises of 20% are easy to get...
These are average salaries by state in Germany:
https://www.forschung-und-lehre.de/karriere/bis-zu-1-500-euro-differenz-bei-tatsaechlicher-besoldung-2397/
Including all supplements ("Grundgehälter, Familienzuschläge, diverse Leistungsbezüge, zum Beispiel aus Anlass von Berufungen, sowie Sonderzahlungen"). So the best-paying state is Bavaria with 9190 gross per month (the only state paying more than 9k). So the average W3 wage is (I think it's 12.5 "Monatsgehälter" in most states, but correct me if you have better information) 9190*12.5=115k. In other states more like 105-110k.
Now these are average salaries across all departments. In general, in Germany there are no big differences across departments (at least, not as much as in the US), but probably in econ one would expect somewhat higher salaries. I would be surprised if average salaries were above 120k, though.