Stop self-promotion, Helmut.Let me tell you one thing: I did not write this. I do serious research, and I come to this forum to read and distribute serious and useful job market information. I'm not willing to tolerate pointless jokes and unfunny trolling.
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Helmut-Franz Küche, Economist
Lame troll who spells Helmut Franz-Küche Helmut-Franz Küche.
I got 90k. Maybe if you are in BW or Bavaria you are closer to 100k if you get your first w3.
you must have credible outside offers or high existing salary to get above 100k for a w3 when you start.
I got 80k and was told that I am lucky. You are not living in Germany, mein Freund.
Exactly. And outside offers in industry usually do not count. I even saw a colleague with an offer from Austria who was told "No, we are not giving you more - otherwise go to Austria" which he did not.
Hier sind mir zu viele PhD aus den Staaten mit ihren abstrusen Vorstellungen über Deutschland an Bord.
You sound like a Nazi, I hate to say this.
Exactly. And outside offers in industry usually do not count. I even saw a colleague with an offer from Austria who was told "No, we are not giving you more - otherwise go to Austria" which he did not.
Hier sind mir zu viele PhD aus den Staaten mit ihren abstrusen Vorstellungen über Deutschland an Bord.
After being extremely happy to get a tenured W3 at a nice German university, I invited some old friends to celebrate. I had not seen them in a while, since I was busy with Zwischenevaluation and marking just below 1,000 exams. One of my friends had become Oberstudienrat at the same Gymnasium, we went to school around 20 years ago. He was full of reverence and pat me on the back asking in front of the entire crowd: "For all this work, your sacrifices, all your merits and achievements, I cannot tell how proud of you I am. Now tell me, what do you make?" I responded "90,000".
--My friend laughed so hard and did not stopp, that I punched him right there. Now I have a lot more time for work and do not have to bother with so-called friends.
After being extremely happy to get a tenured W3 at a nice German university, I invited some old friends to celebrate. I had not seen them in a while, since I was busy with Zwischenevaluation and marking just below 1,000 exams. One of my friends had become Oberstudienrat at the same Gymnasium, we went to school around 20 years ago. He was full of reverence and pat me on the back asking in front of the entire crowd: "For all this work, your sacrifices, all your merits and achievements, I cannot tell how proud of you I am. Now tell me, what do you make?" I responded "90,000".
--My friend laughed so hard and did not stopp, that I punched him right there. Now I have a lot more time for work and do not have to bother with so-called friends.
That’s exactly right. Every teacher has a good/great salary without any risk of not getting tenured. And will still get a position if your university grades are below average. That is just a joke
After being extremely happy to get a tenured W3 at a nice German university, I invited some old friends to celebrate. I had not seen them in a while, since I was busy with Zwischenevaluation and marking just below 1,000 exams. One of my friends had become Oberstudienrat at the same Gymnasium, we went to school around 20 years ago. He was full of reverence and pat me on the back asking in front of the entire crowd: "For all this work, your sacrifices, all your merits and achievements, I cannot tell how proud of you I am. Now tell me, what do you make?" I responded "90,000".
--My friend laughed so hard and did not stopp, that I punched him right there. Now I have a lot more time for work and do not have to bother with so-called friends.That’s exactly right. Every teacher has a good/great salary without any risk of not getting tenured. And will still get a position if your university grades are below average. That is just a joke
Dude, teachers have to teach 20 hours or so per week. I am toast after a 2 hours lecture where I barely have to interact with students.
That's why smart teachers lick some boots, go to trainings, and advance on the school career ladder. Pay is incredible, combined with easy pathways to early retirement.
After being extremely happy to get a tenured W3 at a nice German university, I invited some old friends to celebrate. I had not seen them in a while, since I was busy with Zwischenevaluation and marking just below 1,000 exams. One of my friends had become Oberstudienrat at the same Gymnasium, we went to school around 20 years ago. He was full of reverence and pat me on the back asking in front of the entire crowd: "For all this work, your sacrifices, all your merits and achievements, I cannot tell how proud of you I am. Now tell me, what do you make?" I responded "90,000".
--My friend laughed so hard and did not stopp, that I punched him right there. Now I have a lot more time for work and do not have to bother with so-called friends.That’s exactly right. Every teacher has a good/great salary without any risk of not getting tenured. And will still get a position if your university grades are below average. That is just a joke
Dude, teachers have to teach 20 hours or so per week. I am toast after a 2 hours lecture where I barely have to interact with students.
After being extremely happy to get a tenured W3 at a nice German university, I invited some old friends to celebrate. I had not seen them in a while, since I was busy with Zwischenevaluation and marking just below 1,000 exams. One of my friends had become Oberstudienrat at the same Gymnasium, we went to school around 20 years ago. He was full of reverence and pat me on the back asking in front of the entire crowd: "For all this work, your sacrifices, all your merits and achievements, I cannot tell how proud of you I am. Now tell me, what do you make?" I responded "90,000".
--My friend laughed so hard and did not stopp, that I punched him right there. Now I have a lot more time for work and do not have to bother with so-called friends.That’s exactly right. Every teacher has a good/great salary without any risk of not getting tenured. And will still get a position if your university grades are below average. That is just a joke
Dude, teachers have to teach 20 hours or so per week. I am toast after a 2 hours lecture where I barely have to interact with students.
Thats what I call underperformance
After being extremely happy to get a tenured W3 at a nice German university, I invited some old friends to celebrate. I had not seen them in a while, since I was busy with Zwischenevaluation and marking just below 1,000 exams. One of my friends had become Oberstudienrat at the same Gymnasium, we went to school around 20 years ago. He was full of reverence and pat me on the back asking in front of the entire crowd: "For all this work, your sacrifices, all your merits and achievements, I cannot tell how proud of you I am. Now tell me, what do you make?" I responded "90,000".
--My friend laughed so hard and did not stopp, that I punched him right there. Now I have a lot more time for work and do not have to bother with so-called friends.That’s exactly right. Every teacher has a good/great salary without any risk of not getting tenured. And will still get a position if your university grades are below average. That is just a joke
Dude, teachers have to teach 20 hours or so per week. I am toast after a 2 hours lecture where I barely have to interact with students.
I think professors in Germany also have to teach at least 8-10 h a week. At least that was what I've been told.