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1. Economist
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   RR doesn’t want a professorship in Germany. Why would he? He is at a top department better than almost all German departments, his family is in the US and unwilling to go to Germany. Why does anyone think that he is searching in Germany?
   US bro

   Simple. He says he wants a professorship in Germany. As to the "top department" he is at, the reality is that it is a mediocre department in the middle of nowhere. You can't blame him for wanting to leave to an even lower ranked German department. Quality of life matters.

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2. Economist
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   Giving the types of discussion he just gave at the NBER SI at least makes it more likely that the US academia wants to get rid of him. Whether this increases his chances in Germany, though,... :-P

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3. Economist
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   RR doesn’t want a professorship in Germany. Why would he? He is at a top department better than almost all German departments, his family is in the US and unwilling to go to Germany. Why does anyone think that he is searching in Germany?
   US bro

   All his own making. Show me one US based German economist who is so much wedded to what‘s going on „at home“. I mean if he doesn‘t give a damn, why on earth wasting time on SH, academia in Germany etc.? Ok, could be he is incapable of getting over what has happened to him while he was in Germany and all this twitter barrage and VfS service is to be seen as a coping strategy - but in this case you sort of start seeing why not everybody wants him back badly.

   Now I am curious: what happened to him in Germany?

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4. Economist
   fa28
   

   Giving the types of discussion he just gave at the NBER SI at least makes it more likely that the US academia wants to get rid of him. Whether this increases his chances in Germany, though,... :-P

   What did he do?

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5. Economist
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   1) Did not really understand the main insight of the paper. And it is very well explained, so not the authors' fault.
   2) Heavily self-promoted along the way and even spend the last 3-4 minutes on two slides of one his current working papers.
   3) Filled the time with unnecessary (philosophical) quotes to show off that he is a literate guy.
   4) Subjective: just very unpleasant to watch.

   Giving the types of discussion he just gave at the NBER SI at least makes it more likely that the US academia wants to get rid of him. Whether this increases his chances in Germany, though,... :-P

   What did he do?

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6. Economist
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   ^ I also saw it and don't get what you complain about. If you want to complain about a nonsensical discussion, complain about Ma discussing the Farhi Werning paper without ANY comment but praising them and her daddy Shleifer. RR gave a good discussion and contextualized the paper pretty well.

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7. Economist
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   ^thanks Rudi for letting us know what you think about your presentation!

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8. Economist
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   ^ Guess what, I'm not RR and if you knew who I am you would be surprised. It's plain disgusting how individuals like you make anonymous attacks without any substance. Have you ever presented at the NBER SI? I presented at 4 different NBER meetings this year alone and consider myself qualified to judge on these things.

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9. Economist
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   1) The fact that there might be worse discussions (haven't seen Ma's) does not make his a good one.
   2) Contextualizing the paper and saying "cite these 5 papers, 3 of which are mine" are very different things. Throwing in a paraphrased Pigou (1927) quote does not really provide context whatsoever.

   ^ I also saw it and don't get what you complain about. If you want to complain about a nonsensical discussion, complain about Ma discussing the Farhi Werning paper without ANY comment but praising them and her daddy Shleifer. RR gave a good discussion and contextualized the paper pretty well.

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10. Economist
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    Don't start switching IPs, that's pathetic. What are your credentials to make these statements? And I was wrong, I presented already 5 times this year and have seen many discussions at many levels. He clearly is an expert in this area, contrary to the authors and he helped them to sharpen the contribution of their paper.

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11. Economist
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    Lol, there is no need to stop switching IPs as long as it is obvious that I am the same person, so calm your yourself. The whole idea of this forums is that you don't judge me based on my credentials, whatever they may be, but instead based on the content that I provide.
    While I am totally open to a different opinion, I have listed (mostly) objective bullets explaining my criticism. You, on the other hand, try to block that off by "being qualified". Instead explain to me why it was a good discussion, thanks.

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12. Economist
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    I told you, pretty simple. Same as for third paper on that program. Not much contribution and now you have to communicate that in a nice way given that everything is online and live streamed now. Pretty simple. Again. Maybe saying it twice helps your attention.

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13. Economist
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    Maybe you don’t know what discussions are supposed to do. Provide contextualization and give constructive comments. That’s exactly what he did. He suggested them to explore the bias time series and spareseness some more. He helped other German authors whose work is relevant and has gotten unnoticed by the US big shots. Gabaix and Angeletos both referred to his discussion in their comments. At no point did he ask to be cited. Disgusting this negativity here.

    1) The fact that there might be worse discussions (haven't seen Ma's) does not make his a good one.
    2) Contextualizing the paper and saying "cite these 5 papers, 3 of which are mine" are very different things. Throwing in a paraphrased Pigou (1927) quote does not really provide context whatsoever.

    ^ I also saw it and don't get what you complain about. If you want to complain about a nonsensical discussion, complain about Ma discussing the Farhi Werning paper without ANY comment but praising them and her daddy Shleifer. RR gave a good discussion and contextualized the paper pretty well.
    

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14. Economist
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    so did he give a good discussion or a bad one? very interested in further opinions as this is a very important economic job market rumor

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15. Economist
    fa28
    

    Is there no permanent recording of these meetings? Just live stream?

    You could ask RR for his slides...

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16. Economist
    3bed
    

    RR doesn’t want a professorship in Germany. Why would he? He is at a top department better than almost all German departments, his family is in the US and unwilling to go to Germany. Why does anyone think that he is searching in Germany?
    US bro

    Simple. He says he wants a professorship in Germany. As to the "top department" he is at, the reality is that it is a mediocre department in the middle of nowhere. You can't blame him for wanting to leave to an even lower ranked German department. Quality of life matters.

    Are all of you crazy?!? His wife Ying Fan is a tenured professor at Michigan who just co-organized NBER SI in industrial organization. Any German university would kill to have them.

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17. Economist
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    "Wissen Sie, ich sage immer: vom Postdoc aufwärts beginnt der Darwinismus. Aber der Mensch, der Mensch fängt erst beim Ordinarius an, is nich so, is nich so?"

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18. Economist
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    Are all of you crazy?!? His wife Ying Fan is a tenured professor at Michigan who just co-organized NBER SI in industrial organization. Any German university would kill to have them.

    We will not go over his story again. You can read it here, just go back by a few hundred pages. It has been told multiple times.
    The point that dual career offers at senior level are difficult for German universities has also been made.

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19. Economist
    3bed
    

    Are all of you crazy?!? His wife Ying Fan is a tenured professor at Michigan who just co-organized NBER SI in industrial organization. Any German university would kill to have them.

    We will not go over his story again. You can read it here, just go back by a few hundred pages. It has been told multiple times.
    The point that dual career offers at senior level are difficult for German universities has also been made.

    Okay, so then somebody please explain to me what RR did that makes him a pariah in Germany. Please!

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20. Economist
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    Are all of you crazy?!? His wife Ying Fan is a tenured professor at Michigan who just co-organized NBER SI in industrial organization. Any German university would kill to have them.

    We will not go over his story again. You can read it here, just go back by a few hundred pages. It has been told multiple times.
    The point that dual career offers at senior level are difficult for German universities has also been made.

    Okay, so then somebody please explain to me what RR did that makes him a pariah in Germany. Please!

    In brief, accepted offers at several German unis in the past and never showed up.

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