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1. Economist
   769c
   

   In the Top-25 department ranking, there are only 11 German universities. This is not helpful for someone looking for a job in Germany only. We definitely need a top-50 ranking for the departments. Why hide all of this relevant information if they have collected data for so many departments?

   A lot of reasonable comments regarding the HB-ranking have been raised. Is there going to be a revised version at some point?
   Top-100 instead of -75 under 40, exclusion of people like Boyer, Hagenbach who don’t belong in there, Top-50 instead of -25 ranking for departments?

   https://econtop.uvt.nl/rankingsandbox.php

   Better for your purposes and in general as well

   6 months ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 1 Vlad !

2. Economist
   ed83
   

   Different topic:
   Any experiences on average GRE quant scores for admission to top German PhD programmes (MGSE, Bonn, Mannheim, UZH (CH))?
   Bonn says the average successful candidate has a 165, is this still up-to-date. Munich requires at least >80% (but "most successful candidates blabla >=90%). No info on Mannheim and UZH.

   Nobody?

   6 months ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

3. Economist
   1b06
   

   Different topic:
   Any experiences on average GRE quant scores for admission to top German PhD programmes (MGSE, Bonn, Mannheim, UZH (CH))?
   Bonn says the average successful candidate has a 165, is this still up-to-date. Munich requires at least >80% (but "most successful candidates blabla >=90%). No info on Mannheim and UZH.

   Nobody?

   I don't know about Mannheim and UZH either. But I know that at least until recently, the GRE at most (all?) places in Germany, is rather a hurdle you have to jump. So it's not like in the US where a particular high score is necessary for getting in the programme. In Germany is more binary, if you below the score you might get rejected straight away, but there is not a big advantage of being better than the threshold mentioned at the website.

   6 months ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

4. Economist
   1b06
   

   Different topic:
   Any experiences on average GRE quant scores for admission to top German PhD programmes (MGSE, Bonn, Mannheim, UZH (CH))?
   Bonn says the average successful candidate has a 165, is this still up-to-date. Munich requires at least >80% (but "most successful candidates blabla >=90%). No info on Mannheim and UZH.

   Nobody?

   I don't know about Mannheim and UZH either. But I know that at least until recently, the GRE at most (all?) places in Germany, is rather a hurdle you have to jump. So it's not like in the US where a particular high score is necessary for getting in the programme. In Germany is more binary, if you below the score you might get rejected straight away, but there is not a big advantage of being better than the threshold mentioned at the website.

   But to be honest it could differ again for non-Germans, and non-European applicants.

   6 months ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

5. Economist
   ce64
   

   Top 5 German Economists:
   Max Otte
   Markus Krall
   Rüdiger Bachmann
   Dirk Müller
   Christian Siemering

   Don‘t forget Marc Friedrich!

   Marc Friedrich: makes millions with bitcoin
   you: spend hours and days studying and discussing rankings nobody outside your profession cares about

   only lemons don’t like rankings

   6 months ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 2 Vlad !

6. Economist
   3977
   

   Will the Martinez bug be fixed eventually?

   Publisher according to homepage are Sturm and Haucap.

   So Sturm (KOF) and Südekum (DICE) are responsible for this epic disaster?

   It's KOF and Dice. This explains it.

   And if KOF is publisher, how come their own researchers get to their points? IM in young economist ranking has one aer with three authors and one restat with two and one Econ inquiry with four. How does that give 1.09 points? Aer is 0.33, restat 0.2, EI almost zero.

   6 months ago # QUOTE 2 Volod 0 Vlad !

7. Economist
   769c
   

   Different topic:
   Any experiences on average GRE quant scores for admission to top German PhD programmes (MGSE, Bonn, Mannheim, UZH (CH))?
   Bonn says the average successful candidate has a 165, is this still up-to-date. Munich requires at least >80% (but "most successful candidates blabla >=90%). No info on Mannheim and UZH.

   Nobody?

   I don't know about Mannheim and UZH either. But I know that at least until recently, the GRE at most (all?) places in Germany, is rather a hurdle you have to jump. So it's not like in the US where a particular high score is necessary for getting in the programme. In Germany is more binary, if you below the score you might get rejected straight away, but there is not a big advantage of being better than the threshold mentioned at the website.

   Thanks a lot!

   6 months ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

8. Economist
   93ff
   

   I am pretty sure there are more cases where not everything is totally correct. It would be best if the details for each author would be visible (which papers are counted, number of coauthors).

   Actually I assume that mistakes can happen also accidentally, partly because the system is not super transparent for authors to use (was at least my experience). Commitment to correct reporting (and to really checking it once more) would be higher if each author had received a summary in a PDF file of all his/her pubs, coauthors etc. and be asked explicitly to confirm once that everything is correct.

   Making small "mistakes" pushes you easily some ranks up...

   6 months ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 0 Vlad !

9. Economist
   62f0
   

   Agree. They need to do something like that.

   I am pretty sure there are more cases where not everything is totally correct. It would be best if the details for each author would be visible (which papers are counted, number of coauthors).
   Actually I assume that mistakes can happen also accidentally, partly because the system is not super transparent for authors to use (was at least my experience). Commitment to correct reporting (and to really checking it once more) would be higher if each author had received a summary in a PDF file of all his/her pubs, coauthors etc. and be asked explicitly to confirm once that everything is correct.
   Making small "mistakes" pushes you easily some ranks up...

   6 months ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 0 Vlad !

10. Economist
    7498
    

    They might change the ranking and nobody cares...
    Like olympic medals - in case of fraud/doping the next ones receive the medals. But nobody acknowledges these events.

    Und die Moral von der geschicht? Fraudsters get their credit. Nobody cares about corrections... but maybe KOF has placed their candidate...

    Agree. They need to do something like that.

    I am pretty sure there are more cases where not everything is totally correct. It would be best if the details for each author would be visible (which papers are counted, number of coauthors).
    Actually I assume that mistakes can happen also accidentally, partly because the system is not super transparent for authors to use (was at least my experience). Commitment to correct reporting (and to really checking it once more) would be higher if each author had received a summary in a PDF file of all his/her pubs, coauthors etc. and be asked explicitly to confirm once that everything is correct.
    Making small "mistakes" pushes you easily some ranks up...
    

    6 months ago # QUOTE 2 Volod 0 Vlad !

11. Economist
    a052
    

    reg ranking, robust

    6 months ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 0 Vlad !

12. Economist
    19ad
    

    Tax money at work https://twitter.com/nikolasander/status/1451817287468601344?s=20

    6 months ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 0 Vlad !

13. Economist
    7556
    

    Now I know why everybody stopped working at HU: in Berlin, from now on, every postdoc will automatically get tenure. The current president just resigned over that. Berlin universities will go down. I think you cannot trust the local Berlin government with running universities any longer.

    https://www.tagesspiegel.de/wissen/praesidentin-der-humboldt-universitaet-zu-berlin-sabine-kunst-tritt-aus-protest-gegen-neues-hochschulgesetz-zurueck/27738678.html

    6 months ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 0 Vlad !

14. Economist
    1fce
    

    Now I know why everybody stopped working at HU: in Berlin, from now on, every postdoc will automatically get tenure. The current president just resigned over that. Berlin universities will go down. I think you cannot trust the local Berlin government with running universities any longer.
    https://www.tagesspiegel.de/wissen/praesidentin-der-humboldt-universitaet-zu-berlin-sabine-kunst-tritt-aus-protest-gegen-neues-hochschulgesetz-zurueck/27738678.html

    „die eine Habilitation oder äquivalente Leistungen wie die Leitung einer Nachwuchsgruppe erbracht haben und danach in einen Tenure Track gehen, also eine Stellenzusage bekommen“. Schulz (die Linke)
    Wer weder gramatikalisch noch inhaltlich in der Lage ist, ordentliche Sätze zu formulieren, sollte evtl. nicht in die Politik?

    6 months ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

15. Economist
    2873
    

    Congratulations Berlin - by passing this post-doc law, you just decided that the long-term trajectory of your universities is: DOWN!

    That's the end for them. This is really something that matters to first-order.

    Now I know why everybody stopped working at HU: in Berlin, from now on, every postdoc will automatically get tenure. The current president just resigned over that. Berlin universities will go down. I think you cannot trust the local Berlin government with running universities any longer.
    https://www.tagesspiegel.de/wissen/praesidentin-der-humboldt-universitaet-zu-berlin-sabine-kunst-tritt-aus-protest-gegen-neues-hochschulgesetz-zurueck/27738678.html

    „die eine Habilitation oder äquivalente Leistungen wie die Leitung einer Nachwuchsgruppe erbracht haben und danach in einen Tenure Track gehen, also eine Stellenzusage bekommen“. Schulz (die Linke)
    Wer weder gramatikalisch noch inhaltlich in der Lage ist, ordentliche Sätze zu formulieren, sollte evtl. nicht in die Politik?

    6 months ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 1 Vlad !

16. Economist
    0e8f
    

    Maybe German universities as a whole should be managed by the federal government. Berlin government‘s level is not even minor league, but they feel like NYC. Große Schn..ze, nix ..

    6 months ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

17. Economist
    bc19
    

    Great: All academias now have a job and become loyal voters for the current parties. If they vote for someone else, jobs might be in danger.

    I think every household should have one mandatory public servant. This is better than "bedingungsloses Grundeinkommen" because now the civil servant takes care of the basic income and if someone in the household behaves "bad" (e.g., non-woke or vote for different parties) then the living standards might no longer be maintained. In the case of "bedingungsloses Grundeinkommen", some might think it is not important to worship the government. I think Berlin is on the right way to replicate the "good old times"

    6 months ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 1 Vlad !

18. Economist
    b886
    

    Congratulations Berlin - by passing this post-doc law, you just decided that the long-term trajectory of your universities is: DOWN!
    That's the end for them. This is really something that matters to first-order.

    Now I know why everybody stopped working at HU: in Berlin, from now on, every postdoc will automatically get tenure. The current president just resigned over that. Berlin universities will go down. I think you cannot trust the local Berlin government with running universities any longer.
    https://www.tagesspiegel.de/wissen/praesidentin-der-humboldt-universitaet-zu-berlin-sabine-kunst-tritt-aus-protest-gegen-neues-hochschulgesetz-zurueck/27738678.html

    „die eine Habilitation oder äquivalente Leistungen wie die Leitung einer Nachwuchsgruppe erbracht haben und danach in einen Tenure Track gehen, also eine Stellenzusage bekommen“. Schulz (die Linke)
    Wer weder gramatikalisch noch inhaltlich in der Lage ist, ordentliche Sätze zu formulieren, sollte evtl. nicht in die Politik?
    

    What's the problem? Habilitation requirement: 2-3A+. Fair and problem solved.

    6 months ago # QUOTE 2 Volod 0 Vlad !

19. Economist
    0c8d
    

    The new law simply says that postdocs can only be hired on a tenure track. This seems to be uncommon in Germany, but standard in the US, I guess.

    6 months ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 1 Vlad !

20. Economist
    3b3a
    

    ejmr: Every German list is filled with Profs that only want to raise their pay and junior researchers are do0med ... also ejmr: the university system is do0med if we give job security to people in their 30s and 40s teaching 10 SWS while living in Berlin on an E13 after obtaining a 'habitiliationsäquivalente Leistung'

    6 months ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 1 Vlad !

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