Does anyone seriously think ED would place in the top 20 if she were a white male?No because a white male wouldn’t write this paper.
That's just rude. Boustan isn't male but she's white. And there are plenty of white male economic historians working on race and other topics.
I agree with you somewhat, but I believe what many consider an "absurd advantage" can reflect the actual benefit of having minority faculty, conditional on "ability," (whatever that really means). ED is an excellent example of a talented candidate who's using her background to tackle big, neglected questions in economics.Her work is completely derivative and covers the same areas as her advisors (Hendren, Katz, Boustan) with no original contributions. I agree the research is important. I do not think it is well done. It is also not neglected.
This is flat wrong, unless you consider it ‘derivative’ to work on intergenerational mobility (student works in same subfield as advisors! She’s a fraud!). She’s providing new insight into the historical roots of these documented racial trends.
Everyone whining about the quality of her work should interrogate whether they simply don’t care about the economics of race.
This is just dumb. The effects of the great migration on race has been documented time and again. The link to the Chetty Hendren intergenerational mobility index at the aggregate level is unsupported. We aren't learning anything at all.
My HRM is flying her out knowing the quality of her work. But it's still a good thing she works on racial inequality.
Ah yes, lengthy thread castigating a young economists as a fraud because of her race and gender is a nuanced, open-minded use of this wonderful forum, but suggesting anything about white males is ‘rude.’ Give me a break.
Beyond being glib, I stand behind my broader point - that minority candidates shouldn’t be valued on the JM simply because existing racial/gender balances aren’t ‘fair,’ but because these backgrounds can inform progress in the field that people from white and/or male backgrounds are less likely to possess insight into.
Does anyone seriously think ED would place in the top 20 if she were a white male?No because a white male wouldn’t write this paper.
That's just rude. Boustan isn't male but she's white. And there are plenty of white male economic historians working on race and other topics.
This entire thread is why minorities and women are discouraged from pursuing economics in the first place. A successful woman in the field is immediately assumed by less successful men to have received special treatment--this is the only way in which these men can rationalize their own failure to themselves.
Under this no-win situation, it's remarkable that women and minorities ever succeedl. I interviewed ED, and would fly her out if she weren't completely out of our league. She produced a an innovative and interesting JMP that required a creative data build. She is very personable, and she seems like she'd make a great colleague and teacher.
It's really pathetic that the success of a young black women threatens you all so much.
https://scholar.princeton.edu/lboustan/research
People saying her work is derivative: point me to the specific papers that already showed what she is finding. Her paper is in well-worn territory but the findings look striking and new. Prove me wrong and I’ll ask her about those papers during her flyout.
People saying her work is derivative: point me to the specific papers that already showed what she is finding. Her paper is in well-worn territory but the findings look striking and new. Prove me wrong and I’ll ask her about those papers during her flyout.
No need for you to ask. The relevant people already know the (little) value of her work, but none of it matters. She'll be at Stanford or Berkeley, her pick.
ED is being treated as HS was last year. They are both great.
People saying her work is derivative: point me to the specific papers that already showed what she is finding. Her paper is in well-worn territory but the findings look striking and new. Prove me wrong and I’ll ask her about those papers during her flyout.No need for you to ask. The relevant people already know the (little) value of her work, but none of it matters. She'll be at Stanford or Berkeley, her pick.
This. terrorizing a grad student online because of her gender or skin color is kind of the thing that you same people are claiming doesn’t happen, and get all pissy when people suggest it does. I would also bet my right hand that she doesn’t wan’t any special treatment, so why not let her do her research and you do yours (I’m sure it’s not as good, but that’s another story).
This entire thread is why minorities and women are discouraged from pursuing economics in the first place. A successful woman in the field is immediately assumed by less successful men to have received special treatment--this is the only way in which these men can rationalize their own failure to themselves.
Under this no-win situation, it's remarkable that women and minorities ever succeedl. I interviewed ED, and would fly her out if she weren't completely out of our league. She produced a an innovative and interesting JMP that required a creative data build. She is very personable, and she seems like she'd make a great colleague and teacher.
It's really pathetic that the success of a young black women threatens you all so much.
People saying her work is derivative: point me to the specific papers that already showed what she is finding. Her paper is in well-worn territory but the findings look striking and new. Prove me wrong and I’ll ask her about those papers during her flyout.No need for you to ask. The relevant people already know the (little) value of her work, but none of it matters. She'll be at Stanford or Berkeley, her pick.
all true, and that is saddening
This entire thread is why minorities and women are discouraged from pursuing economics in the first place. A successful woman in the field is immediately assumed by less successful men to have received special treatment--this is the only way in which these men can rationalize their own failure to themselves.
Under this no-win situation, it's remarkable that women and minorities ever succeedl. I interviewed ED, and would fly her out if she weren't completely out of our league. She produced a an innovative and interesting JMP that required a creative data build. She is very personable, and she seems like she'd make a great colleague and teacher.
It's really pathetic that the success of a young black women threatens you all so much.
No. Talented / properly placed females are rarely talked about. It's the ones that overplace because of AA that are.
Hey 540f why don’t you post your website so we can evaluate you. Given your low-iq racist whining I’m guessing you’re a low/mediocre researcher who doesn’t even have the ability to evaluate candidates like her. So kindly, gtfo
No. Talented / properly placed females are rarely talked about. It's the ones that overplace because of AA that are.
This thread is really gross and is symptomatic of the broader culture problem in economics. I hope these commentators are just aggrieved graduate students and not professors on hiring committees. Please don't go out of your way to badmouth minority job market candidates.