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• Thread: 52 Goods vs 22 No Goods

1. Economist
   6f96
   

   Aborg/Canadian/women >> w/women >> V/minority women >> w/men >> Aborg/Canadian/men >> V/minority men

   The above appears to be the preference structure implemented by the Canadian government. I think if data are made available then one may to be able test it and one would most likely get the above mentioned preference structure.

   In the AA criteria who gets precedence among w/women, V/minority and Aborg/Canadian. Empirical evidence seems to suggest w/women are the most preferred. What does the criteria tell us?

   What happens if a school does not meet the AA criteria? If they don't then they will have all their CRC chairs pulled. Part of Trudeau's policy, was announced 2 or 3 years ago.

   The crc stage is a rubber stamp. Acceptance rates by the crc Agency are high 90s percent and summary stats are published from time to time.
   

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2. Economist
   6f96
   

   Crost and Myers to Calgary or not?

   Both have offers. Myers as CRC, Crost to lead ag econ research center.

   Yes, it is more likely if they are partners otherwise the probability that two from the same department (in UIUC) get a job in the same university in a different country would be rather low.

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3. Economist
   4623
   

   What's the latest on CRC, now that the covid-19 cases have started declining in Canada?

   Canada is now dealing with a major pandemic and so the delay is expected. Also Alberta and Calgary are dealing with an economic meltdown due to sharp fall in oil prices. Hence, one should expect no recruitment activities in the short term.

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4. Economist
   4623
   

   Most definitely. The sheer amount of paper work the CRC candidate does to apply (after the internal department and university screening) is insane. You would know if you are the department's preferred candidate. You might wonder whether it is worth it in the end!

   What if the preferred candidate declines the offer?

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5. Economist
   8cc5
   

   You make sure they want it before the paperwork.

   But, more to the point, don’t now go to Alberta/Calgary unless you are nutz.

   Most definitely. The sheer amount of paper work the CRC candidate does to apply (after the internal department and university screening) is insane. You would know if you are the department's preferred candidate. You might wonder whether it is worth it in the end!

   What if the preferred candidate declines the offer?

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6. Economist
   6f96
   

   Could you please elaborate why Calgary/Alberta should be avoided at this point in time. Thanks in advance.

   You make sure they want it before the paperwork.
   But, more to the point, don’t now go to Alberta/Calgary unless you are nutz.

   Most definitely. The sheer amount of paper work the CRC candidate does to apply (after the internal department and university screening) is insane. You would know if you are the department's preferred candidate. You might wonder whether it is worth it in the end!

   What if the preferred candidate declines the offer?
   

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7. Economist
   f672
   

   Could you please elaborate why Calgary/Alberta should be avoided at this point in time. Thanks in advance.

   I think the point is that the chickens have finally come home to roost in Alberta with the energy sector looking to be on its death bed.

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8. Economist
   6f96
   

   Could you please elaborate why Calgary/Alberta should be avoided at this point in time. Thanks in advance.

   I think the point is that the chickens have finally come home to roost in Alberta with the energy sector looking to be on its death bed.

   Thanks for your clarification. This could justify reasons not to construct further pipeline through Alberta and alternatively focus on renewable sources of energy. It may actually turn out to be a boon rather than bane for Alberta.

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9. Economist
   5a24
   

   Be careful with Alberta and Calgary if accepting a CRC. The way that they allocate the funds is not in line with other provinces. They will try to dictate your allotment to salary and research (with very little going to salary). In some cases, they have given course releases and quantified it as part of your chair, when, in fact, it is their obligation to free you up for you to do your chair duties. I would strongly encourage anyone who is considering a CRC offer anywhere in Alberta to consult with other CRCs in Canada. The other extreme is some of the CRCs in Ontario who have managed to lock the entire chair into their base salary. Not sure how they pulled this off but imagine the pension and annual % increases... wow. I wouldn't expect that. Just try to get best allocation for the position and ask the right questions about programs for retention should the CRC not renew (especially if considering a Tier 2, which can only renew once).

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10. Economist
    be43
    

    Tier 1s can only renew once too if you are white male. Bait and switch rule change. Beware of taking a crc now if you gave good outside options.

    Be careful with Alberta and Calgary if accepting a CRC. The way that they allocate the funds is not in line with other provinces. They will try to dictate your allotment to salary and research (with very little going to salary). In some cases, they have given course releases and quantified it as part of your chair, when, in fact, it is their obligation to free you up for you to do your chair duties. I would strongly encourage anyone who is considering a CRC offer anywhere in Alberta to consult with other CRCs in Canada. The other extreme is some of the CRCs in Ontario who have managed to lock the entire chair into their base salary. Not sure how they pulled this off but imagine the pension and annual % increases... wow. I wouldn't expect that. Just try to get best allocation for the position and ask the right questions about programs for retention should the CRC not renew (especially if considering a Tier 2, which can only renew once).

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11. Economist
    f85f
    

    The new regulation requires the demographics of chairs to match that of the (Canadian?) population, so some white men should be able to be renewed if others are.

    Tier 1s can only renew once too if you are white male. Bait and switch rule change. Beware of taking a crc now if you gave good outside options.

    Be careful with Alberta and Calgary if accepting a CRC. The way that they allocate the funds is not in line with other provinces. They will try to dictate your allotment to salary and research (with very little going to salary). In some cases, they have given course releases and quantified it as part of your chair, when, in fact, it is their obligation to free you up for you to do your chair duties. I would strongly encourage anyone who is considering a CRC offer anywhere in Alberta to consult with other CRCs in Canada. The other extreme is some of the CRCs in Ontario who have managed to lock the entire chair into their base salary. Not sure how they pulled this off but imagine the pension and annual % increases... wow. I wouldn't expect that. Just try to get best allocation for the position and ask the right questions about programs for retention should the CRC not renew (especially if considering a Tier 2, which can only renew once).
    

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12. Economist
    4623
    

    Is anyone aware of reasons for delay at Calgary given McMaster and Carleton offers are now public?

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13. Economist
    be43
    

    Theres no university where a white male Can renew a second time (even though that was the rule when the vast majority were recruited). Its been a shameful triumph for PC-ness by the liberal government.

    The new regulation requires the demographics of chairs to match that of the (Canadian?) population, so some white men should be able to be renewed if others are.

    Tier 1s can only renew once too if you are white male. Bait and switch rule change. Beware of taking a crc now if you gave good outside options.

    Be careful with Alberta and Calgary if accepting a CRC. The way that they allocate the funds is not in line with other provinces. They will try to dictate your allotment to salary and research (with very little going to salary). In some cases, they have given course releases and quantified it as part of your chair, when, in fact, it is their obligation to free you up for you to do your chair duties. I would strongly encourage anyone who is considering a CRC offer anywhere in Alberta to consult with other CRCs in Canada. The other extreme is some of the CRCs in Ontario who have managed to lock the entire chair into their base salary. Not sure how they pulled this off but imagine the pension and annual % increases... wow. I wouldn't expect that. Just try to get best allocation for the position and ask the right questions about programs for retention should the CRC not renew (especially if considering a Tier 2, which can only renew once).
    

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14. Economist
    6f96
    

    No. It is not shameful if one carefully reads Canadian history. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    Theres no university where a white male Can renew a second time (even though that was the rule when the vast majority were recruited). Its been a shameful triumph for PC-ness by the liberal government.

    The new regulation requires the demographics of chairs to match that of the (Canadian?) population, so some white men should be able to be renewed if others are.

    Tier 1s can only renew once too if you are white male. Bait and switch rule change. Beware of taking a crc now if you gave good outside options.

    Be careful with Alberta and Calgary if accepting a CRC. The way that they allocate the funds is not in line with other provinces. They will try to dictate your allotment to salary and research (with very little going to salary). In some cases, they have given course releases and quantified it as part of your chair, when, in fact, it is their obligation to free you up for you to do your chair duties. I would strongly encourage anyone who is considering a CRC offer anywhere in Alberta to consult with other CRCs in Canada. The other extreme is some of the CRCs in Ontario who have managed to lock the entire chair into their base salary. Not sure how they pulled this off but imagine the pension and annual % increases... wow. I wouldn't expect that. Just try to get best allocation for the position and ask the right questions about programs for retention should the CRC not renew (especially if considering a Tier 2, which can only renew once).

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15. Economist
    1694
    

    You mean canadian history where white men built the country? Lol

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16. Economist
    be43
    

    I have no personal skin in this game sadly but recruiting high caliber personnel on the basis of one prospectus then substantially changing the offer after they are on the ground is evidently unfair isn’t it? A change of rules for new recruits would have been fair what they did was shameful IMHO.

    No. It is not shameful if one carefully reads Canadian history. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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17. Economist
    6f96
    

    You make a fair point and I agree with you on this.

    I have no personal skin in this game sadly but recruiting high caliber personnel on the basis of one prospectus then substantially changing the offer after they are on the ground is evidently unfair isn’t it? A change of rules for new recruits would have been fair what they did was shameful IMHO.

    No. It is not shameful if one carefully reads Canadian history. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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18. Economist
    6f96
    

    Why do you assume that there is a delay? They may have already given offer.

    Is anyone aware of reasons for delay at Calgary given McMaster and Carleton offers are now public?

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19. Economist
    6f96
    

    Crost and Myers to Calgary or not?

    Both have offers. Myers as CRC, Crost to lead ag econ research center.

    Have you confirmed it? Where is the Ag econ research center in Calgry?

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20. Economist
    4623
    

    Ag center probably is in the business school. But, I am also unsure whether an offer has been made. Anyone here knows about it?

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