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How prestigious is Columbia University really?
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I think that I have hit the right tone. You are attacking me personally and not addressing the point. I can be both immature and insecure. However, my point stands. No one from Harvard would ever feel compelled to explain why chosing Harvard was better form them than choosing Columbia. Sorry guys
What's your IQ? 50? You \neq all of Harvard. If you want to take a position at least make sure it's not falsifiable but "at least one."
I would rate myself at 115. Again it is not about me.
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This thread is a disaster. It is basically a magnet for all the stupid preftige trolls who keep obsessing about private equity, IB, etc. You guys are just such losers. It's really cringe.
Most of us I assume are economists or econ students
You know that we are obsessed with prestige and money
The Harvard name and elite private equity are very aspirational to us
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elite private equity? Most economists couldn't care less about this garbage. The only people who care about this junk are undergread asians who have been obsessing about money and preftige since they were 15 due to their insane asian parenting.
This thread is a disaster. It is basically a magnet for all the stupid preftige trolls who keep obsessing about private equity, IB, etc. You guys are just such fukin losers. It's really cringe.
Most of us I assume are economists or econ students
You know that we are obsessed with prestige and money
The Harvard name and elite private equity are very aspirational to us -
elite private equity? Most economists couldn't care less about this garbage. The only people who care about this junk are undergread asians who have been obsessing about money and preftige since they were 15 due to their insane asian parenting.
This thread is a disaster. It is basically a magnet for all the stupid preftige trolls who keep obsessing about private equity, IB, etc. You guys are just such fukin losers. It's really cringe.
Most of us I assume are economists or econ students
You know that we are obsessed with prestige and money
The Harvard name and elite private equity are very aspirational to us
This garbage? How else do you propose getting rich?
Do you have the skillset to start a successful software company or biotech? Or any company for that matter.
Maybe some economists don't care because they are satisfied being salaried middle class.
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This garbage? How else do you propose getting rich?
Do you have the skillset to start a successful software company or biotech? Or any company for that matter.
Maybe some economists don't care because they are satisfied being salaried middle class.If you're counting on becoming partner/MD after joining an investment bank or PE firm that's about as unlikely as starting a successful tech company. You know how many finance guys who worked at Goldman then KKR/TPG/etc don't even work in finance anymore? Out of my university's investment club in my year there were like 8 who went on that route and only 2 are still on the MD/partner track. Most are doing CORP DEV for tech companies and make what first-year engineers make in Silicon Valley these days. Maybe if you're lucky you'll get a middle market PE offer to look at super crappy boring oil & gas companies in flyover country for boomer partners? Or join some tiny startup hedge fund when you don't know the first thing about public markets and you'll be counselled out in a year and forced to look for corp fin jobs? This is all stuff that happens
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Undergrad wise definitely a T5-level school (has been in T5 in the USNWR for the past 13-14 years). Forbes also put it at #5 this year. Solid career outcomes, especially in law school admissions, finance and journalism.
Student preference-wise, it's similar to Princeton (loses to HYS and MIT in cross admits) and Caltech.
Parchment has it above Duke (63% admitted to both schools chose Columbia), Penn (64%), Chicago (66%), Caltech (62%), and Northwestern (68%).
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Undergrad wise definitely a T5-level school (has been in T5 in the USNWR for the past 13-14 years). Forbes also put it at #5 this year. Solid career outcomes, especially in law school admissions, finance and journalism.
Student preference-wise, it's similar to Princeton (loses to HYS and MIT in cross admits) and Caltech.
Parchment has it above Duke (63% admitted to both schools chose Columbia), Penn (64%), Chicago (66%), Caltech (62%), and Northwestern (68%).Honestly surprised to see that many Duke boosters on this forum, now that the school has been in a long-term decline in popularity and prestige since the early 2000s. It's dropping fast on all rankings.
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Why did Duke fall so much in the 2000s?
When I applied to college in 1997, Duke was #3.The resurgence of urban areas over the past couple decades make city schools more appealing, like Columbia and Penn. Many kids nowadays want to be in a major city (or near one) and Durham's location is, frankly speaking, not that appealing. Plus, Duke is an overhyped school because of its basketball program. Hasn't been ranked T5 in USNEWS since 2006 and even dropped to #12 last year.
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Columbia gets dominated in cross admits to HYPSM, and splits fairly evenly w schools like UPenn
If you look at the Parchment data, having 36% of the kids pick Columbia over Princeton, 31% over Yale, and 32% over MIT when admitted to both schools isn't really as lopsided as you make it out to be. It's clearly competitive against those peer schools and will become more so in future.
It's funny how Princeton loses 60%-80% of cross-admit battles to Harvard, Yale, and Stanford, yet somehow y'all think they're on the same tier.
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Columbia is a tier two elite - meaning below HYPSM. It simply cannot compete from an endowment perspective. For example, Columbia’s endowment is lower than Penn or Northwestern’s
Having a large endowment doesn't make you prestigious either. Notre Dame and Michigan both have larger endowments than most of the Ivies but they are nowhere as prestigious.
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Among the general public, among the industry, and among academics...
General public - very prestigious, especially on the East Coast (and NYC of course). More well-known abroad than Princeton or Yale but not as much as Harvard/Stanford/MIT.
Industry - a literal pipeline to wall street, and it's not just about location but the insanely powerful networks that gets you to high places.
Academics - pretty well respected across the board.
Surprised to see that many haters on this forum. Most of them probably never went to a T5, or a T10-level school. Beyond a certain threshold it's pretty pointless arguing which school is marginally better.
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Columbia has been selling degrees as cash cows. Columbia alma mater on the resume is almost worthless now.
Every degree for which you have to pay full tuition is a cash cow degree...
As if Harvard Extension School or Yale SOM aren't cash-cow programs for rich international students.