I'm from Georgia and I get really offended when people call me a southern guy. We are not like people in the deep south, like Louisiana, Mis, and Bama.
I am from Hong Kong and I would like to ask that Ameribro PhD classmates
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Singpaorebro here.
I am comfortable of my Chinese heritage and origins, and don't mind it when people think that I'm Chinese. I go only by my Chinese name (like Li Shengwu), unlike the HK bros who tend to have some weird English names. I use my Chinese ethnicity to be friendly with the Chinabros in my departments, while I'm comfortable with the Americans and other international students too.
The only reason why you're so worked up on all this is because you HKers have some weird superiority complex over the mainlanders. All of our ancestors come from the mainland anyway, why does it matter?
I did my undergrad in the US. It's always the same pattern. The HK peeps have their own goddamned cliques and think the mainlanders as beneath them. Chill out man, you all have so much in common, why not be more friendly?
My hypothesis is that the HKers are so hostile because their city is declining rapidly with respect to the mainland, so they double down on their asinine superiority complex. It's just sad.this.
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Singpaorebro here.
I am comfortable of my Chinese heritage and origins, and don't mind it when people think that I'm Chinese. I go only by my Chinese name (like Li Shengwu), unlike the HK bros who tend to have some weird English names. I use my Chinese ethnicity to be friendly with the Chinabros in my departments, while I'm comfortable with the Americans and other international students too.
The only reason why you're so worked up on all this is because you HKers have some weird superiority complex over the mainlanders. All of our ancestors come from the mainland anyway, why does it matter?
I did my undergrad in the US. It's always the same pattern. The HK peeps have their own goddamned cliques and think the mainlanders as beneath them. Chill out man, you all have so much in common, why not be more friendly?
My hypothesis is that the HKers are so hostile because their city is declining rapidly with respect to the mainland, so they double down on their asinine superiority complex. It's just sad.I don't think mainlanders (not the government) care about what HKers think, and they surely cannot understand them. HKers had been treated as 2nd-tier people by white British for more than a century while mainlanders or people in any other adjacent regions didn't have similar experience. HKers are inferior to British and they assume that they are superior to mainlanders, partially because HK was a more developed area. You know abused kids at home are bullies on playground.
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please stop calling me "Chinese". Hong Kong is NOT a part of "China". We are an autonomous territory with our own judicial powers and government. It offends me when people call me "Chinese"; life in Hong Kong is NOTHING like on the mainland and I don't like, and find it very offensive, being affiliated with the mainland - which is not my home. It would - honestly - be less offensive to me if I was called British (as we are an ex-colony).
It's even worse when Ameribros call Taiwanese people "Chinese". I have many Taiwanese friends and they take deep offence at the notion that Taiwan is a part of China or something - it's not even like Hong Kong where China has a special agreement regarding some laws/ foreign diplomacy etc: Taiwan has literally nothing to do with China.
It's just like calling Japanese people or Korean people "Chinese". Its very offesnive so please stop doing it Ameribros (and Eurobros who do this too).
Thank you on behalf of the people of Hong Kong (and Taiwan)Fellow HK bro here who is more "yellow" than many (not talking about skin color).
But OP, if this wasn't a troll post, I think this line of thinking is not what Hong Kong needs, for a few reasons.
1. As many have suggested, they seriously don't care. Just think about this - if you think a random white guy is French and he says "No I'm Belgian." How much do you care really?
2. I sincerely hope we will wake up one day in a new Hong Kong (whether as an independent country or not). But I don't want the new HK to be a right-wing, xenophobic, HK-supremacist cesspool like CCP-China is today. If we want to be different from China, we are different because we don't share the core value held by (most) CCP-Chinese: that people should bond together because they share the same bloodline and that the interests of the common bloodline trumps any values like mutual respect, democracy and individual freedom.
3. Fighting China/CCP on racial grounds will win you some allies. Fighting China/CCP on values will win us the world. We need the powerful national to enforce the rules of the world. We don't need them to nuke China because they hate the Chinese.
4. Even if HK is to be an independent country, it will need to deal with (the current or a new) China and its 1.4 billion people. We can't just say we want nothing to do with China and dream that all these issues go away.
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On the 30% chance that you're not a troll, you're an idiot. During the handover talks, the British government never viewed your parents as anything but "Chinese."
The proof is the British Nationality (Falkland Islands) Act 1983. Prior to that act, Falkland Islanders had a status similar to Hongkongers; they were British "nationals" but not British "citizens" and thus didn't have the right of abode in the UK. However, after the act, Falkland Islanders were granted full British citizenship.
Why was a British Nationality (Hong Kong) Act never passed? The answer is easy: Falkland Islanders are white; you're not.I thought why Hongkongers didn't obtain the status of British citizen was not they are non-white but Chinese government insisted they should not.
The handover was set for 1997. Until then, Hong Kong was still a British colony, and short of invasion, there wasn't much the Chinese government could do. For example, they couldn't stop Chris Patten from implementing some democratic reforms right before the handover. The only thing that prevented the UK from granting full citizenship to Hongkongers was 1980s racism.
But the UK got what it deserved. It could have had a ton of loyal, easily assimilable Chinese immigrants from Hong Kong who would have mostly contributed to Britain. Instead, it took in immigrants from other countries and assimilated them so poorly that, well, you know what happened next.You said "short of invasion, there wasn't much the Chinese government could do."
Clearly, you are NOT familiar with Hong Kong. Where does it get its water? When you have more than 6 million people living on a barren rock, that rock is pretty dependent on the surrounding area.Besides, are you saying that an invasion was unlikely? I was living in Hong Kong before and during the Handover, and China frequently threatened to invade (for the sake of 'stability'). Especially during the last commemoration of the Tiananmen Square Massacre before the Handover, all those people sitting peacefully in a park with candles led the CCP to threaten to send in the military to 'restore order'.
"For example, they couldn't stop Chris Patten from implementing some democratic reforms right before the handover"
Wow, have you read the Basic Law? Apparently not.
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HK is China, always was, except for the short period when the drug cartel known as the British Empire took over it, after defeating the Chinese Empire in mid 19th century forcing it to accept British opium trade. Nonetheless, the British _thugs_ were forced to return HK to China. Point. Regardless of op's fantasies.
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Euro bro here. OP, it doesn't really make any difference how hard you've been trying to deny your ethnic identity as long as you are to do a s/h/i/t/h/o/l/e job on the US jerb mkt. All the Singaporeans, TWers and HKers who failed the jerb mkt thx to their horrible spoken English and hackneyed research ideas will be automatically classified as Chynks who will be looked down upon. If you excelled and did a great job, we'd absolutely show respect and acknowledge you as a decent HKer who's way more likable than a typical CCP Chinese.
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HK is China, always was, except for the short period when the drug cartel known as the British Empire took over it, after defeating the Chinese Empire in mid 19th century forcing it to accept British opium trade. Nonetheless, the British _thugs_ were forced to return HK to China. Point. Regardless of op's fantasies.
The British were fighting with China over the tariff as the trade deficit between Britain and China is huge. After the Opium War, Lin Zexu actually promote home-grown Opium...
To OP, just politely tell your friend that you are from Hong Kong.