In the Seema thread, someone claims that USC is top 50, but not top 25.
Others state that USC is top 25, and this is the consensus of people in the field.
So lets vote:
good = USC is top 25
no good = USC is NOT top 25
Is USC a top 25 dept?
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Things are not this easy, OP. When you get out of the top 6, things like field, resources, fit with colleagues, level of phd program start mattering a lot. Plus, it depends a lot on how far in the past you go: Over the last 20 years USC is definitely not top 25, but their hires over the last three are on par with the top 10, IMO.
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When you have to mumble rumble to a simple yes or no question, the answer is already clear.
Things are not this easy, OP. When you get out of the top 6, things like field, resources, fit with colleagues, level of phd program start mattering a lot. Plus, it depends a lot on how far in the past you go: Over the last 20 years USC is definitely not top 25, but their hires over the last three are on par with the top 10, IMO.
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Things are not this easy, OP. When you get out of the top 6, things like field, resources, fit with colleagues, level of phd program start mattering a lot. Plus, it depends a lot on how far in the past you go: Over the last 20 years USC is definitely not top 25, but their hires over the last three are on par with the top 10, IMO.
What are the "top 6" departments? I thought it was top 7?
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Yes but jealous grad students who hang out on EJMR will say otherwise. Just ask them to come up with 25 departments clearly better than USC. They can't.
T11 + Wisconsin, UMichigan, Duke, Minnesota, UCSD, UCLA, JHU, Maryland, Cornell, UT Austin, MSU, UVA, BU, BC, Brown, Penn State, Rochester. You are welcome.
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Things are not this easy, OP. When you get out of the top 6, things like field, resources, fit with colleagues, level of phd program start mattering a lot. Plus, it depends a lot on how far in the past you go: Over the last 20 years USC is definitely not top 25, but their hires over the last three are on par with the top 10, IMO.
What are the "top 6" departments? I thought it was top 7?
I don't want to turn this topic into this again, but: MIT, Harvard, Princeton, Berkeley, Yale, Stanford, the last five in no particular order.
Yes but jealous grad students who hang out on EJMR will say otherwise. Just ask them to come up with 25 departments clearly better than USC. They can't.
T11 + Wisconsin, UMichigan, Duke, Minnesota, UCSD, UCLA, JHU, Maryland, Cornell, UT Austin, MSU, UVA, BU, BC, Brown, Penn State, Rochester. You are welcome.
Very, very hard to argue that Cornell, UT Austin, MSU, UVA, BC, Penn State have better faculty than USC. Impossible to do that for Rochester.
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Yes but jealous grad students who hang out on EJMR will say otherwise. Just ask them to come up with 25 departments clearly better than USC. They can't.
T11 + Wisconsin, UMichigan, Duke, Minnesota, UCSD, UCLA, JHU, Maryland, Cornell, UT Austin, MSU, UVA, BU, BC, Brown, Penn State, Rochester. You are welcome.
Welcome for what, a wrong answer that would have been right maybe 15 years ago? You’re obviously a clueless grad student getting upvotes by other clueless jealous LRM grad students. Any professors writing rec letters know which schools cross admits pick these days and the quality of the departments. JHU, Penn State, Austin, UVA, MSU, Maryland and BC are not better than USC. Some others like Rochester and BU are debatable. You can cry about it and hate on ejmr as much as you want tho.
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Who are the top10-level hires for USC? I can think of Chaney, but who else?
Things are not this easy, OP. When you get out of the top 6, things like field, resources, fit with colleagues, level of phd program start mattering a lot. Plus, it depends a lot on how far in the past you go: Over the last 20 years USC is definitely not top 25, but their hires over the last three are on par with the top 10, IMO.
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Yes but jealous grad students who hang out on EJMR will say otherwise. Just ask them to come up with 25 departments clearly better than USC. They can't.
T11 + Wisconsin, UMichigan, Duke, Minnesota, UCSD, UCLA, JHU, Maryland, Cornell, UT Austin, MSU, UVA, BU, BC, Brown, Penn State, Rochester. You are welcome.
Welcome for what, a wrong answer that would have been right maybe 15 years ago? You’re obviously a clueless grad student getting upvotes by other clueless jealous LRM grad students. Any professors writing rec letters know which schools cross admits pick these days and the quality of the departments. JHU, Penn State, Austin, UVA, MSU, Maryland and BC are not better than USC. Some others like Rochester and BU are debatable. You can cry about it and hate on ejmr as much as you want tho.
This. And even if you're an undergrad and don't have access to that, the clearest evidence that USC rose fast and into the T20 is the number of haters and the amount of nonsense you read here like the guy claiming that places like MSU, BC, and UVA are above USC. Or the other guy saying "top 50 - 70". And getting upvoted. LOL!