Transparency is nice, but man, I hope none of my co-authors ever wrote to an editor telling them that I wanted to do be sloppy in the revision process.
Ken Judd removed name from JPE article as otherwise it reduced its chance
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Kenny:
You are a true role model."Many journals encourage authors to share their code, but our code contains copyrighted material and cannot be publicly posted. Our second novel feature will help readers check the accuracy of our computations and use the computed value and policy functions for their own simulations. To that end, we created Mathematica notebooks for a few examples which contained the solutions and code that would allow the reader to check first-order conditions."
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In a technical sense, all code is copyrighted (literally everything written is, including my post here). The claim means nothing without saying what copyright(s) would be violated.
Kenny:
You are a true role model."Many journals encourage authors to share their code, but our code contains copyrighted material and cannot be publicly posted. Our second novel feature will help readers check the accuracy of our computations and use the computed value and policy functions for their own simulations. To that end, we created Mathematica notebooks for a few examples which contained the solutions and code that would allow the reader to check first-order conditions."
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This is way better than the last season of Succession.
"Call me a son of a b***h, an id**t or whatever you like but let this act of respect for you and your work not be harmed and just do what you do best-wonderful economics"
"on jpe please hold all fire Monika is p****d that I reopened your file harald is sensitive please just hold it in till we get this paper in and published plead with you to hold your fire these decisions are bundled I like your ability trump like to speak your mind but play Rubio for a while there is a time and a,okace for everyone"
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Ken do as you want I am not going to be a party to a degrading exchange I do not know the full history
of the JPE I may have misspoken
But listen to this
Raise a stink and quit the JPE
That's the rule on this paper
Period
And if you think I am bluffing just try to call it
I am sick of these tirades as all of us are
And sorrowful that you have fallen this low -
Ken, since you seem to be reading this thread: you've benefited from networks and inside favor trading your whole career relative to what the modal economist has experienced. It's evident throughout your emails. Get off your high horse or fight for true reform that would actually let talent shine through and not just re-distribute the rents within the club.
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Indeed: the fact that this paper was invited to be resubmitted with so many negative reports is already a privilege many of us do not enjoy. Sure, the negative reports may have been unfair, but we all experience that from time to time
Ken, since you seem to be reading this thread: you've benefited from networks and inside favor trading your whole career relative to what the modal economist has experienced. It's evident throughout your emails. Get off your high horse or fight for true reform that would actually let talent shine through and not just re-distribute the rents within the club.
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I was prepared after reading a bit about this conflict to come down completely on Judd's side: we've all heard rumors about JH's antics, after all.
The email exchange is surreal, and doesn't in any way vindicate Judd. He comes across as boundlessly entitled, obnoxious, condescending, and unreasonable; an adolescent throwing a temper tantrum because he didn't get his way.
Any shred of sympathy I might have had for Judd vanished when with the passage beginning "I can also play this hostage game," threatening the *students* of the editors with whom he's in conflict as retaliation for perceived injustices.
And what a novel glimpse this sordid exchange offers into the totally corrupt world of publishing among inner club members.
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Ken, if you think this is tyranny (or even approaches it), you have led an incredibly spoiled life.
The stakes are low indeed…
Judd now explaining the saga in a new blogpost at https://showmethemath.org/
Heckman seems to have been the editor in question; not clear who the "former editor" was though (whose work Judd wanted to criticize)pgp tweeted about it
A very one-sided reflection.
Do others get a chance to email the editor and complain when your paper is rejected at JPE? Does it ever work if you are not KJ?
But also good for him to go public with his criticisms of editors. Few would do.
Heckman is long gone out of power and won't be remembered fondly by the profession. But the younger people will need to think twice before they set the rule of the land.I tell all my students that they should not say what I say or do what I do until they are in my situation. Of course this would never work for almost anyone else. Fighting tyranny is always costly but it is necessary. My costs are less than other people's costs, so I fight.
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I was prepared after reading a bit about this conflict to come down completely on Judd's side: we've all heard rumors about JH's antics, after all.
The email exchange is surreal, and doesn't in any way vindicate Judd. He comes across as boundlessly entitled, obnoxious, condescending, and unreasonable; an adolescent throwing a temper tantrum because he didn't get his way.
Any shred of sympathy I might have had for Judd vanished when with the passage beginning "I can also play this hostage game," threatening the *students* of the editors with whom he's in conflict as retaliation for perceived injustices.
And what a novel glimpse this sordid exchange offers into the totally corrupt world of publishing among inner club members.The most puzzling thing is that KJ thought this would help him. Uhlig and Heckman were probably laughing when KJ asked them whether he can post the email exchange.
btw, from what I heard, this is how he got his s****y MPEC paper into Econometrica.
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So this publicity stunt backfired tremendously on KJ? How long has he been in the profession that he has not interacted significantly with LRMs to know that what he faces and what others face are completely different games in publishing? That he would be so ignorant and come on here, a website that many LRMs (and fallen HRM grads) visit too, to complain that he has been wronged and that the publishing game is rigged against him.
Bro...
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Those emails are comedy gold. I cracked up multiple times reading them. The contrast of KJ's verbose rants with JJH's emails in the style of EE Cummings is just too good.
Anyway, KJ comes away looking worse. And am I wrong or did he make a veiled threat about MP and HU's students?