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Economist
42c7

I am also interested in this:
What about security check/clearance process or reference checking? Are there such processes at OECD before an offer is made?
If yes, who (or which organization) carries out security/background check?

OECD bro here again. Reference checking will be done for external candidates. They will inform you per email before doing so. No security check.
Currently the OECD has problems with gender equality and its budget (US, largest contributor might cut its contributions); could be that the length of the selection process is related to that.

Thanks a lot again. You help us very much.

I have further comments:

- When and for whom will reference checking be done? Just before the final decision and just for the selected candidate OR for all shortlisted candidates at an earlier stage?

- Gender equality is almost impossible to achieve in practice. My specialization is on a very specific topic and I am sure that all short listed candidates are male as it is a very small pool and I know everyone in my area.

- Cuts in US contributions are announced in mid 2017 but this position is advertised at the end of 2017. So, I am sure that this is not a problem for this position.

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Economist
d6b2

I am also interested in this:
What about security check/clearance process or reference checking? Are there such processes at OECD before an offer is made?
If yes, who (or which organization) carries out security/background check?

OECD bro here again. Reference checking will be done for external candidates. They will inform you per email before doing so. No security check.
Currently the OECD has problems with gender equality and its budget (US, largest contributor might cut its contributions); could be that the length of the selection process is related to that.

Thanks a lot again. You help us very much.
I have further comments:
- When and for whom will reference checking be done? Just before the final decision and just for the selected candidate OR for all shortlisted candidates at an earlier stage?
- Gender equality is almost impossible to achieve in practice. My specialization is on a very specific topic and I am sure that all short listed candidates are male as it is a very small pool and I know everyone in my area.
- Cuts in US contributions are announced in mid 2017 but this position is advertised at the end of 2017. So, I am sure that this is not a problem for this position.

OECD bro back again.

>- When and for whom will reference checking be done? Just before the final >decision and just for the selected candidate OR for all shortlisted candidates >at an earlier stage?
They will do the reference checks for all external candidates who passed the panel, i.e. only for people they actually want to hire.

- Gender equality is almost impossible to achieve in practice. My specialization >is on a very specific topic and I am sure that all short listed candidates are >male as it is a very small pool and I know everyone in my area.

Agree with your first point. However, the organisation wants to strictly enforce a 50/50 parity. Recent promotions and hires from outside strongly reflect this.

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Economist
2a3e

After written and video interview the hiring committee establishes a short list. People on the short list are invited for interviews the rest not.
How long does it take?

In my case, it took about one month.

Well, although "Withdrawn" is still on, I suppose that after three months, I have no chance for a panel interview.

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Economist
42c7

... the organisation wants to strictly enforce a 50/50 parity. Recent promotions and hires from outside strongly reflect this.

Thanks a lot.

If the only target is a overall 50/50 parity, that is achievable. OECD may hire as many women as possible at low level positions to achieve this target.

However, if the target is to achieve a parity at each grade level, this is not so easy, if not impossible.

I do not believe in such kind of so-called "positive" discrimination. For me, every kind of discrimination is bad and negative as it results in inefficiency.

By the way, is there any publicly available document that shows current staff structure of OECD by gender, by nationality and by grade? If not, it means that this so-called positive discrimination is not transparent, which may result in corruption!

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Economist
42c7

After written and video interview the hiring committee establishes a short list. People on the short list are invited for interviews the rest not.
How long does it take?

In my case, it took about one month.

Well, although "Withdrawn" is still on, I suppose that after three months, I have no chance for a panel interview.

No, OECD is an extremely slow organization.

If "withdraw" option is available and "Job Status" is "Active", then you still have a chance...

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Economist
2a3e

After written and video interview the hiring committee establishes a short list. People on the short list are invited for interviews the rest not.
How long does it take?

In my case, it took about one month.

Well, although "Withdrawn" is still on, I suppose that after three months, I have no chance for a panel interview.

No, OECD is an extremely slow organization.
If "withdraw" option is available and "Job Status" is "Active", then you still have a chance...

So, I hope so. Is it ok to ask you at which department are you working at OECD?

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Economist
0cc0

So, I hope so. Is it ok to ask you at which department are you working at OECD?

I am not oecd bro, I am a short-listed candidate.

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Economist
0cc0

In Staff Regulations (page 19), it says:

107/10 Prior to being appointed as an official, the selected candidate undergo a medical examination on the basis of which the Medical Officer of the Organisation shall determine whether such candidate satisfies the standards of medical fitness required for the exercise of the functions he will be called upon to perform.

Is this a serious medical examination OR just a formality?

Where does the candidate undergo this medical examination? May s/he undergo it in his/her home country?

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Economist
2a3e

I don't know if someone has noticed, but OECD seems that add some new questions/section on platform application. This shows that definitely returned from holidays.

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Economist
42c7

I don't know if someone has noticed, but OECD seems that add some new questions/section on platform application. This shows that definitely returned from holidays.

They even advertised new positions!!! They are certainly back!... but still very slow as usual...

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Economist
42c7

STAFF REGULATIONS document has just been updated!..

Here is September 2018 edition (previous one was April 2018)...

https://www.oecd.org/careers/Staff_Rules_en.pdf

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Economist
42c7

Any OECD bro for two important points below?

POINT-1:

Is there any publicly available document that shows current staff structure of OECD by gender, by nationality and by grade? If not, it means that this so-called positive discrimination is not transparent, which may result in corruption!

POINT-2:

In Staff Regulations (page 19), it says:

107/10 Prior to being appointed as an official, the selected candidate undergo a medical examination on the basis of which the Medical Officer of the Organisation shall determine whether such candidate satisfies the standards of medical fitness required for the exercise of the functions he will be called upon to perform.

Is this a serious medical examination OR just a formality?

Where does the candidate undergo this medical examination? May s/he undergo it in his/her home country?

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Economist
42c7

Any OECD bro on above?

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Economist
24a3

OECD bro again.

AFAIK the document is not available for outsiders but I have some graphs internally.

Medical examination is thorough. They will check general heath, eyes and also prostate, even if you are young. Most people I know did the check at home, though there are exceptions if the person can't do it at home etc.

I literally had to go to special doctor's to complete the examination and had to pay around 500E upfront for these visits.

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Economist
f16f

OECD bro again.
AFAIK the document is not available for outsiders but I have some graphs internally.
Medical examination is thorough. They will check general heath, eyes and also prostate, even if you are young. Most people I know did the check at home, though there are exceptions if the person can't do it at home etc.
I literally had to go to special doctor's to complete the examination and had to pay around 500E upfront for these visits.

Thanks bro. You are again a life saver :-)

So, if I am offered a position at OECD, I can have medical examination at a hostital in my home country and send it to OECD. Is that right?

If so, may I go to any hospital in my home country or are there some rules that limit the choice of hospital?

If possible, could you please compress these graphs in a zip file and upload it to a cloud service (Dropbox, gdrive etc.) and put the link here so that we have a closer look at them.

Thanks for a million times!..

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Economist
d6b2

Thanks bro. You are again a life saver :-)
So, if I am offered a position at OECD, I can have medical examination at a hostital in my home country and send it to OECD. Is that right?
If so, may I go to any hospital in my home country or are there some rules that limit the choice of hospital?

Yes, you are free in the choice of your physician, but that should all be written in the informational material accompanying your offer letter.

If possible, could you please compress these graphs in a zip file and upload it to a cloud service (Dropbox, gdrive etc.) and put the link here so that we have a closer look at them.
Thanks for a million times!..

For obvious reasons, I'm not doing this.

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Economist
20b4

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For obvious reasons, I'm not doing this.

Thanks again.

But your reasons are not so obvious to us.

If OECD administration has some considerations (like nationality and gender) other than merit in the employment process, then the candidates should have all the right to know the current nationality and gender structure of OECD staff.

Even, gender and nationality structure of OECD staff by department and by grade MUST be publicly available. Transparency, which is always promoted by OECD, absolutely requires this.

And, as we all know, lack of transparency means corruption eventually...

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Economist
20b4

http://www.oecd.org/careers/faqapplyingtotheoecd.htm

When will I hear about my application?

Feedback on the status of applications is provided only once the recruitment process is completed. No information concerning the status of your application will be communicated by phone or e-mail.

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OECD does not provide any information concerning the status of my application until the recruitment process is completed, which seems to take forever!!!

Something is fatally wrong with OECD recruitment process!..

I decided to withdraw my application if I do not get a feedback within a week as I do not want to work for an organization that cannot handle even a simple recruitment process.

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Economist
65f1

Hey there fellow colleagues!

Anybody here knows if OCDE notifies ALL candidates about the outcome of their written test/video interview or they just communicate to the successful ones?

I took online video interview and written test about a month ago. I work for another major Int.Org so I know internal approvals can take long, but it would be nice to know if they have a policy of informing all the candidates or not (since we've already kind of shortlisted but not the final stage).

Thanks!

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Economist
20b4

...
the document is not available for outsiders but I have some graphs internally.
...
If possible, could you please compress these graphs in a zip file and upload it to a cloud service (Dropbox, gdrive etc.) and put the link here so that we have a closer look at them.

Any OECD bro who can help us on above?

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