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• Thread: 1730 Goods vs 769 No Goods

1. Economist
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   I would veto any offer to this person at the current school or any future place I work for. One shouldn’t be declining offers because of money. Only the culture of that place and the match on research interests should be considered, and both are known before the interview

   How is it viewed if as a seasoned prof you interview somewhere but don't take the job if offered. Does it burn all future opportunity w/ that school or give you a bad reputation? Interested in a place and confident I'd get interview but not 100% that I would take an offer. Would depend on several factors. Or is it assumed that req'd consideration is sorted pre-interview?

   1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 6 Vlad !

2. Economist
   2054
   

   Are you attempting to win a most ridiculous comment contest?

   I would veto any offer to this person at the current school or any future place I work for. One shouldn’t be declining offers because of money. Only the culture of that place and the match on research interests should be considered, and both are known before the interview

   How is it viewed if as a seasoned prof you interview somewhere but don't take the job if offered. Does it burn all future opportunity w/ that school or give you a bad reputation? Interested in a place and confident I'd get interview but not 100% that I would take an offer. Would depend on several factors. Or is it assumed that req'd consideration is sorted pre-interview?
   

   1 year ago # QUOTE 5 Volod 0 Vlad !

3. Economist
   9cf8
   

   Aren't you experienced enough by now to know not to put the cart before the horse?

   How is it viewed if as a seasoned prof you interview somewhere but don't take the job if offered. Does it burn all future opportunity w/ that school or give you a bad reputation? Interested in a place and confident I'd get interview but not 100% that I would take an offer. Would depend on several factors. Or is it assumed that req'd consideration is sorted pre-interview?

   1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

4. Economist
   2d49
   

   ^
   He successfully did!

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5. Economist
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6. Economist
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7. Economist
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8. Economist
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9. Economist
   cfd1
   

   Spoken like someone who never had to work for money

   1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

10. Economist
    ae28
    

    237 jobs (not including multiple lines) so far.

    If you have a pulse, you get a job.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 2 Volod 0 Vlad !

11. Economist
    e330
    

    For sure, I hear Cyprus and Kazakhstan are lovely places to live, right?

    237 jobs (not including multiple lines) so far.
    If you have a pulse, you get a job.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 2 Volod 0 Vlad !

12. Economist
    6b39
    

    For sure, I hear Cyprus and Kazakhstan are lovely places to live, right?

    237 jobs (not including multiple lines) so far.
    If you have a pulse, you get a job.
    

    They are counting numbers again. Just just bean counting publications. I just notice from another thread that one accounting guy published almost 20 papers and have fewer than 900 citations. Wow…. Super beancounter, there should be a marvel movie for him

    1 year ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 0 Vlad !

13. Economist
    678d
    

    Sounds like you are very big into counting yourself. Current research shows that the most homophobic people are actually gay, so do you just want to be an accountant and can’t admit it to yourself? Come on big guy, it’s ok, we won’t hurt you.

    For sure, I hear Cyprus and Kazakhstan are lovely places to live, right?

    237 jobs (not including multiple lines) so far.
    If you have a pulse, you get a job.
    

    They are counting numbers again. Just just bean counting publications. I just notice from another thread that one accounting guy published almost 20 papers and have fewer than 900 citations. Wow…. Super beancounter, there should be a marvel movie for him

    1 year ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 1 Vlad !

14. Economist
    e5ed
    

    How is it viewed if as a seasoned prof you interview somewhere but don't take the job if offered. Does it burn all future opportunity w/ that school or give you a bad reputation? Interested in a place and confident I'd get interview but not 100% that I would take an offer. Would depend on several factors. Or is it assumed that req'd consideration is sorted pre-interview?

    Depends on the faculty at the school. Sounds like you’re seriously considering it. So, you shouldn’t get a bad reputation. If you’re just looking for offers to give you a better negotiating position at your current school…and you do this with some frequency it could cause problems.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

15. Economist
    6b39
    

    Hi small guy, Your post had no logic. Bean counters in accounting focuses on counting the number of pubs and donot care about impact. Citations are not a perfect measure of impact but are correlated.

    Sounds like you are very big into counting yourself. Current research shows that the most homophobic people are actually gay, so do you just want to be an accountant and can’t admit it to yourself? Come on big guy, it’s ok, we won’t hurt you.

    For sure, I hear Cyprus and Kazakhstan are lovely places to live, right?

    237 jobs (not including multiple lines) so far.
    If you have a pulse, you get a job.
    

    They are counting numbers again. Just just bean counting publications. I just notice from another thread that one accounting guy published almost 20 papers and have fewer than 900 citations. Wow…. Super beancounter, there should be a marvel movie for him
    

    1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

16. Economist
    7914
    

    Some of the posts here seem like they’re coming from bots. Does EJMR keep out AI trolling?? Maybe someone is doing an experiment with us lol

    1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

17. Economist
    5e4a
    

    it's disheartening to see demonstrated failures (seasoned AP with 0 pubs) getting hired over demonstrated successes (candidates with pubs/R&R).

    FYI, Whistle-blowing is an alternative to stop this. I made it clear to my dep chair he is not hiring none without a pub if all jmcs with pubs are interviewed.

    That is hilarious. I can just imagine an assistant professor coming to me and dictating who we must select for his competition. I bet you made the dept chairs day - that is just funny!! We want to hire the best person - the one we think we will be successful in publishing, teaching, and service. Of course research is the main one but we are not to trying to maximize publications in year 1 in the top 3 but over the next 10 years. Personally, I would tell you to please go ahead whistle, I would personally make the reservation for you in the provosts office.

    I can just imagine an assistant professor coming to me... 1. Who are you? Are you just someone like me doing our job in the department?... and dictating ...2. We are not dictationg, dept chairs are... who we must select for his competition...Yes, the dept is not your property and we dont want you to hire whoever ypu want but based on merit not nepotism or corrupt system. I bet you made the dept chairs day ...yes he was and still is really worried...- that is just funny...it is!! We want to hire the best person - the one we think we will be successful in publishing, teaching, and service. YES, same here! Of course research is the main one ...exactly, same here...but we are not to trying to maximize publications in year 1 in the top 3 but over the next 10 years...who is thinking differently?. Personally, I would tell you to please go ahead whistle,...I did... I would personally make the reservation for you in the provosts office...you dont need that because the hiring process changed and we will all vote for who to hire and all interviews will be recorded and kept as an evidence, as per provost office.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 3 Volod 0 Vlad !

18. Economist
    c8de
    

    A job is a job.

    For sure, I hear Cyprus and Kazakhstan are lovely places to live, right?

    237 jobs (not including multiple lines) so far.
    If you have a pulse, you get a job.
    

    1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

19. Economist
    0c97
    

    The most ridiculous response I have seen here to date.

    A job is a job.

    For sure, I hear Cyprus and Kazakhstan are lovely places to live, right?

    237 jobs (not including multiple lines) so far.
    If you have a pulse, you get a job.
    

    1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

20. Economist
    cfd1
    

    A job is a job.

    For sure, I hear Cyprus and Kazakhstan are lovely places to live, right?

    237 jobs (not including multiple lines) so far.
    If you have a pulse, you get a job.
    

    go work at McDonalds then.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

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