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1. Economist
   1336
   

   From the list you mean?

   Every candidate writes "this is based on my second year summer paper...blah blah blah." So there is no signaling value. Overall, I think someone is trying very hard to promote some of the kids here. In reality, I would choose MIT, Stanford, Wharton and Chicago kids over these so-called stars ten out of ten times. The gap in quality between their publications and road papers is astounding. We had a couple of these out for a visit.

   Letters generally say the role the student played in the paper. At least a couple of these were the student’s idea. That type of thing is often easy to document (e.g. it goes back to a PhD seminar paper).
   

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2. Economist
   44d4
   

   Not every professor does cheap talk, though. Some letters mean something. Read the post. Call the coauthors if you want the story.

   Every candidate writes "this is based on my second year summer paper...blah blah blah." So there is no signaling value. Overall, I think someone is trying very hard to promote some of the kids here. In reality, I would choose MIT, Stanford, Wharton and Chicago kids over these so-called stars ten out of ten times. The gap in quality between their publications and road papers is astounding. We had a couple of these out for a visit.

   Letters generally say the role the student played in the paper. At least a couple of these were the student’s idea. That type of thing is often easy to document (e.g. it goes back to a PhD seminar paper).
   

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3. Economist
   ce94
   

   Letters generally say the role the student played in the paper. At least a couple of these were the student’s idea. That type of thing is often easy to document (e.g. it goes back to a PhD seminar paper).

   These are the stars of this year.
   LB - Emory University - TAR
   EB - University of Kentucky - TAR
   JC - Emory University - JAE
   MP - University of Miami - TAR
   DS - University of Wisconsin-Madison - TAR
   RF - TAMU - TAR
   MZ - University of Toronto - TAR
   Who have ever published a solo authored paper to and A journal while still a PhD student? Of course you need coauthors. The important thing is you are not just an RA. If you had the idea and worked on the paper than do not f..king listen to g/a/r/b/a/g/e/ lo/se/rs like this one below.
   Coauthors: Knechel, Kadous, Carter, Leone, Donelson… yep looks like these ones contributed
   

   I wonder how many of these stars and those from "prestigious" schools have their jmp accepted in any accounting conference?

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4. Economist
   b106
   

   Letters generally say the role the student played in the paper. At least a couple of these were the student’s idea. That type of thing is often easy to document (e.g. it goes back to a PhD seminar paper).

   These are the stars of this year.
   LB - Emory University - TAR
   EB - University of Kentucky - TAR
   JC - Emory University - JAE
   MP - University of Miami - TAR
   DS - University of Wisconsin-Madison - TAR
   RF - TAMU - TAR
   MZ - University of Toronto - TAR
   Who have ever published a solo authored paper to and A journal while still a PhD student? Of course you need coauthors. The important thing is you are not just an RA. If you had the idea and worked on the paper than do not f..king listen to g/a/r/b/a/g/e/ lo/se/rs like this one below.
   Coauthors: Knechel, Kadous, Carter, Leone, Donelson… yep looks like these ones contributed
   

   I wonder how many of these stars and those from "prestigious" schools have their jmp accepted in any accounting conference?

   Yes, if their published work is consistent with their pipeline work.

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5. Economist
   b106
   

   These are the stars of this year.
   LB - Emory University - TAR
   EB - University of Kentucky - TAR
   JC - Emory University - JAE
   MP - University of Miami - TAR
   DS - University of Wisconsin-Madison - TAR
   RF - TAMU - TAR
   MZ - University of Toronto - TAR
   Who have ever published a solo authored paper to and A journal while still a PhD student? Of course you need coauthors. The important thing is you are not just an RA. If you had the idea and worked on the paper than do not f..king listen to g/a/r/b/a/g/e/ lo/se/rs like this one below.
   Coauthors: Knechel, Kadous, Carter, Leone, Donelson… yep looks like these ones contributed

   When candidates are on the job market, faculty can easily get a sense of which students made substantial contributions to a paper. Can they discuss the paper intelligently? Can they describe the fundamental motivation/contribution rather than just the analyses?
   And in most schools there isn't that much weight put on these publications anyway. The papers co-authored with your advisor in the PhD program are discounted (to some extent) in tenure letters, so they're also discounted in the hiring process. One of the biggest positives of a PhD student with publications is that they've at least been through the review process, seen review reports, worked on response memos, etc., so it's not going to be an entirely foreign concept to them once they transition to faculty.

   If I have to agree with you, how do you decide about a certain candidate if you don't interview? I guess you would say you don't know, there is n o way to know. Then, why do you pick those from "top" schools or even glorious RAs?
   I have a real example. Some famous professor is invited to a very "prestigious" school to present a paper about smth very trendy in accounting but with weak results, no contribution and very small data sample. Meanwhile, a jmc is conducting a very similar research with a very large data sample have different results but who doesn't get a job interview at the same university which invited the famous professor to represent his garbage paper.

   It's not perfect, and we obviously don't talk to everyone. But things like Miami (for all its flaws) and January section meetings help. We tend to catch JMCs in the hallways just to grab a tea/coffee and chat for ten or fifteen minutes. It doesn't take long to figure out whether people can talk intelligently about their own work (in which case we'd invite them for a more formal interview). With a couple faculty attending Miami, or other midyear meetings, we can get pretty good coverage and talk to a lot of candidates and figure out who should move forward in the process.

   I bet your smelling capacities come from Madison! There must be smth special about that place where there are a lot of humans that have a far lower dignity and weaker character than a stray dog but a bit better than a Bloomington mor(m)on. My experience from '19-'20 job market.

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6. Economist
   fa13
   

   Every candidate writes "this is based on my second year summer paper...blah blah blah." So there is no signaling value. Overall, I think someone is trying very hard to promote some of the kids here. In reality, I would choose MIT, Stanford, Wharton and Chicago kids over these so-called stars ten out of ten times. The gap in quality between their publications and road papers is astounding. We had a couple of these out for a visit.

   Letters generally say the role the student played in the paper. At least a couple of these were the student’s idea. That type of thing is often easy to document (e.g. it goes back to a PhD seminar paper).
   

   blah blah blah superlemons here and blah blah blah superlemons there. Always the same cheap $hIt talk about MIT, booth and co. What are your superstars doing? Something similar to RT booth. Difference in quality between their pubs and their jmp? Whose jmp did you read? Talk facts or stfu!

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7. Economist
   f3fe
   

   U mean Iowa not Madison?

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8. Economist
   cbc8
   

   From the list you mean?

   Every candidate writes "this is based on my second year summer paper...blah blah blah." So there is no signaling value. Overall, I think someone is trying very hard to promote some of the kids here. In reality, I would choose MIT, Stanford, Wharton and Chicago kids over these so-called stars ten out of ten times. The gap in quality between their publications and road papers is astounding. We had a couple of these out for a visit.

   Letters generally say the role the student played in the paper. At least a couple of these were the student’s idea. That type of thing is often easy to document (e.g. it goes back to a PhD seminar paper).
   

   We get heated discussions in this forum every time people discuss about JAR and Booth. This list is posted here for comparison with Booth's list. That's it. But even if, we still need to see promotions other than those from JAR, for sure.

   1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

9. Economist
   ea5e
   

   The two Iowa students have a 3rd rd JAE co-authored with each other.

   Who have ever published a solo authored paper to and A journal while still a PhD student? Of course you need coauthors. The important thing is you are not just an RA. If you had the idea and worked on the paper than do not f..king listen to g/a/r/b/a/g/e/ lo/se/rs like this one below.

   Coauthors: Knechel, Kadous, Carter, Leone, Donelson… yep looks like these ones contributed

   1 year ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 1 Vlad !

10. Economist
    6964
    

    Hello, world. I created a telegram group chat for EJMR accounting people. I will be on the market soon so I would like to have a place for Ph.D. students to communicate.

    Link here: https://t.me/+SHkv5I5yXoQ5YjRh

    Please be respectful. Feel free to hide your identity or not. First time to do things like this but anyway no one knows me. Praise the telegram. Thank you for your attention.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

11. Economist
    6539
    

    Why is everyone leaving (or trying to leave) Washu? What's wrong with the place?

    1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

12. Economist
    0236
    

    Why is everyone leaving (or trying to leave) Washu? What's wrong with the place?

    Because the prestige isn’t that good, but the deans office thinks it’s on par with Wharton, Chicago, Stanford, NW, and Stanford.

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13. Economist
    0236
    

    Why is everyone leaving (or trying to leave) Washu? What's wrong with the place?

    Because the prestige isn’t that good, but the deans office thinks it’s on par with Wharton, Chicago, Stanford, NW, and Stanford.

    Sorry, replace the last Stanford with Harvard. But yeah. That’s the problem.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

14. Economist
    ee62
    

    Big announcement coming at FARS meeting on Friday morning at plenary session. Stay tuned!

    ... That they are shutting down JFR ?

    Long overdue

    This thread repeatedly bashes the primary journals and then circles back to bash the alternative choice journals. The only thing left is to send papers as avatars in the metaverse.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 6 Volod 0 Vlad !

15. Economist
    9d83
    

    You look at the quality of their JMPs. Weak JMPs and a lot of co-authored papers with senior people is a clear sign of a glorified RA, regardless of what the letter says.

    These are the stars of this year.
    LB - Emory University - TAR
    EB - University of Kentucky - TAR
    JC - Emory University - JAE
    MP - University of Miami - TAR
    DS - University of Wisconsin-Madison - TAR
    RF - TAMU - TAR
    MZ - University of Toronto - TAR
    Who have ever published a solo authored paper to and A journal while still a PhD student? Of course you need coauthors. The important thing is you are not just an RA. If you had the idea and worked on the paper than do not f..king listen to g/a/r/b/a/g/e/ lo/se/rs like this one below.
    Coauthors: Knechel, Kadous, Carter, Leone, Donelson… yep looks like these ones contributed

    When candidates are on the job market, faculty can easily get a sense of which students made substantial contributions to a paper. Can they discuss the paper intelligently? Can they describe the fundamental motivation/contribution rather than just the analyses?
    And in most schools there isn't that much weight put on these publications anyway. The papers co-authored with your advisor in the PhD program are discounted (to some extent) in tenure letters, so they're also discounted in the hiring process. One of the biggest positives of a PhD student with publications is that they've at least been through the review process, seen review reports, worked on response memos, etc., so it's not going to be an entirely foreign concept to them once they transition to faculty.

    If I have to agree with you, how do you decide about a certain candidate if you don't interview? I guess you would say you don't know, there is n o way to know. Then, why do you pick those from "top" schools or even glorious RAs?
    I have a real example. Some famous professor is invited to a very "prestigious" school to present a paper about smth very trendy in accounting but with weak results, no contribution and very small data sample. Meanwhile, a jmc is conducting a very similar research with a very large data sample have different results but who doesn't get a job interview at the same university which invited the famous professor to represent his garbage paper.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

16. Economist
    c25b
    

    This thread repeatedly bashes the primary journals and then circles back to bash the alternative choice journals. The only thing left is to send papers as avatars in the metaverse.

    coming soon to the miami rookie confernece; job talk avatars. or maybe schools will have to pay for phd student hologram projectors.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 0 Vlad !

17. Economist
    5b99
    

    Will this be in real Miami or meta-Miami?

    This thread repeatedly bashes the primary journals and then circles back to bash the alternative choice journals. The only thing left is to send papers as avatars in the metaverse.

    coming soon to the miami rookie confernece; job talk avatars. or maybe schools will have to pay for phd student hologram projectors.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 0 Vlad !

18. Economist
    ae28
    

    Horizons is where it’s at

    Big announcement coming at FARS meeting on Friday morning at plenary session. Stay tuned!

    ... That they are shutting down JFR ?

    Long overdue

    This thread repeatedly bashes the primary journals and then circles back to bash the alternative choice journals. The only thing left is to send papers as avatars in the metaverse.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

19. Economist
    6143
    

    U mean Iowa not Madison?

    Same $hIt.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 2 Vlad !

20. Economist
    57ff
    

    do ppl read papers anymore? maybe LRMs are just counting machines when it comes to hiring. But top places read papers.

    I don't care if you have 3 JAEs ... auditor face width and accruals; auditor face width and audit fees; and audit face width and investment... it isn't going to cut it.

    Publications aren't marathon trophies you display in your glass case. They have content. And it is important to read papers to understand their value.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 6 Volod 0 Vlad !

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