Where is he/she going?
There is no such thing as an informal offer. It is legally effing binding what comes out of one’s mouth. They made an offer to someone who is an AP and the person took another offer.
Official Marketing JM 2020 Thread
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Reminder- being a nice and pleasant person and not being full of yourself go a long way in our profession.
Counterpoint. People love confidence and will tolerate some arrogance if you’re worth it.
Only if you have no self-respect that you think you should take some s**t because you admire someone. In a marriage we call that an abusive relationship.
Some people are grumpy overall, to all like PR, JPD, WH. Some have no common sense of what they say sometimes but should be excused for lack of their EQ. Some are genuinely horrible people.PR and WH from Stanford?
I'm surprised someone finds WH grumpy
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Do you ask about salary at the campus visit?
No. The time for you to bring up salary is after they make you an offer. That said, schools will occasionally bring it up in an interview or visit. I've seen this happen when a school is aware their salaries are below average and they want to know if that will be a deal-breaker for you.
In any salary discussion, as in poker, it's better for you if the other side shows their hand first. So, if they bring it up, you might initially try to turn the question back to them. However, you are trying to get to an offer and so can't be too difficult. Be prepared to give a range if pressed. -
I completely disagree with this. When you have your final meeting with the department chair, you should make sure you confirm teaching load, number of preps, salary, summer support, TA/RA hours, research stipend, and travel stipend. Asking all of these questions is completely expected and I am often shocked when candidates don't ask. The only way you would come across as difficult is if you tried to negotiate these things up front, before the offer.
Do you ask about salary at the campus visit?
No. The time for you to bring up salary is after they make you an offer. That said, schools will occasionally bring it up in an interview or visit. I've seen this happen when a school is aware their salaries are below average and they want to know if that will be a deal-breaker for you.
In any salary discussion, as in poker, it's better for you if the other side shows their hand first. So, if they bring it up, you might initially try to turn the question back to them. However, you are trying to get to an offer and so can't be too difficult. Be prepared to give a range if pressed. -
I completely disagree with this. When you have your final meeting with the department chair, you should make sure you confirm teaching load, number of preps, salary, summer support, TA/RA hours, research stipend, and travel stipend. Asking all of these questions is completely expected and I am often shocked when candidates don't ask. The only way you would come across as difficult is if you tried to negotiate these things up front, before the offer.
Do you ask about salary at the campus visit?
No. The time for you to bring up salary is after they make you an offer. That said, schools will occasionally bring it up in an interview or visit. I've seen this happen when a school is aware their salaries are below average and they want to know if that will be a deal-breaker for you.
In any salary discussion, as in poker, it's better for you if the other side shows their hand first. So, if they bring it up, you might initially try to turn the question back to them. However, you are trying to get to an offer and so can't be too difficult. Be prepared to give a range if pressed.
That is precisely what the poster above you said. That the time to bring this up is only after getting the offer.
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I completely disagree with this. When you have your final meeting with the department chair, you should make sure you confirm teaching load, number of preps, salary, summer support, TA/RA hours, research stipend, and travel stipend. Asking all of these questions is completely expected and I am often shocked when candidates don't ask. The only way you would come across as difficult is if you tried to negotiate these things up front, before the offer.
Do you ask about salary at the campus visit?
No. The time for you to bring up salary is after they make you an offer. That said, schools will occasionally bring it up in an interview or visit. I've seen this happen when a school is aware their salaries are below average and they want to know if that will be a deal-breaker for you.
In any salary discussion, as in poker, it's better for you if the other side shows their hand first. So, if they bring it up, you might initially try to turn the question back to them. However, you are trying to get to an offer and so can't be too difficult. Be prepared to give a range if pressed.
That is precisely what the poster above you said. That the time to bring this up is only after getting the offer.
Nope not precisely same at all. "Asking" and "Negotiating" are two very different things.
But that said, I would recommend asking about various terms of the position (e.g., teaching load, travel budget) and let the conversation naturally flow into salary, if necessary. -
PG is leaving.
NS has a good (though not certain) chance of making it. Two good solo papers + a Restud.
All that said, Stanford desperately needs to hire...
What's going on with tenure decisions at Stanford?
Will PG make it....I know Stanford doesn't count the number of papers.....But still..He has 6 publications
NS has 7.....That too two Marketing Sciences with PC(Chicago Booth)..
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No one gets tenure at Stanford.
- Black Knight of Monty pythonWhich is sort of true! I don't understand how SN (Bayesian guy) made tenure there! Nothing much in portfolio..Especially when you compare him to HN... Both graduated from Booth in 2005 but have drastically different records...
I have heard they offered JJZ (MIT) a position that she declined...They also offered CT(MIT) a position that was not accepted as well.....