QS rankings 2019: Can someone explain the absurdity?

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Economist
d4eb

Are you trolling here?

We r all scientists here right we should know what is science and how to remove biaseness...yes?
Lol....

You seem to persist with your biases.
Good luck, trying to convince others about NTU's superiority over Yale and Princeton. Seeing the trend it won't be far before NUS and NTU outrank Harvard and MIT.
PS. Do you also believe that NUS is at par or better than Harvard and MIT? Because Berkeley, Yale and Princeton rank similarly to Harvard and MIT in most rankings.

ur blind nationalism leads to denial of the truth and the world outside of ur continent. qs numbers are right in ur face.

switzerland, sg, hk has some world class unis that are very well regarded in academia for those that matter. the second tier asian unis are coming as well.

at the end u are who u are, no matter where u go to take some classes lol. so who cares?

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Economist
cbb6

Guys, forget about this troll. Leave him be.

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Economist
c7ce

Are you trolling here?

We r all scientists here right we should know what is science and how to remove biaseness...yes?
Lol....

You seem to persist with your biases.
Good luck, trying to convince others about NTU's superiority over Yale and Princeton. Seeing the trend it won't be far before NUS and NTU outrank Harvard and MIT.
PS. Do you also believe that NUS is at par or better than Harvard and MIT? Because Berkeley, Yale and Princeton rank similarly to Harvard and MIT in most rankings.

ur blind nationalism leads to denial of the truth and the world outside of ur continent. qs numbers are right in ur face.
switzerland, sg, hk has some world class unis that are very well regarded in academia for those that matter. the second tier asian unis are coming as well.
at the end u are who u are, no matter where u go to take some classes lol. so who cares?

Denial of truth? If anything else, folks at QS seem to deny the status quo and seek to gain publicity by manipulating their notorious rankings to push Asian and couple of British universities far ahead than what they deserve.

If you want a relatively credible ranking, refer to ARWU, CWUR or Nature Index rankings. Though far from perfect, they are much better than the joke of ranking agencies that QS seems to have become.

No one denies the presence of 'world-class' research universities outside of the US but to rank NTU ahead of Yale and Berkeley is unbelievingly absurd and irrational.

If anything else QS rankings may end up prospective students from Asian countries about the universities that they choose to end. (A relative of an Indiabro in my department chose to attend King's College London over University of Texas for engineering based on QS ranking!)

Not many graduate students in the US trust QS rankings but the very-eager prospective students from Asia with their parents willing to mortgage their houses do. Unfortunately QS with its absurd ranking that ranks highly average British universities like Birmingham, Southampton etc misinforms and misguides more that it should.

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Economist
d4eb

Guys, forget about this troll. Leave him be.

first u are in denial, then u pretend to be a sporean student but u claim to be an undergrad (on a phd forum lol) and use words like 'quip' very unsingaporean, then u claim qs is wrong u are correct, then now u resort to name calling.

why r u so sore...? oh dear ur beloved princeton got outranked....

i suspect tsinghua gonna outrank princeton soon with all the money the ccp is pumping into it lol...

waiii waiii...qs...waiii...this cant be happening...waiii...

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Economist
c7ce

Guys, forget about this troll. Leave him be.

first u are in denial, then u pretend to be a sporean student but u claim to be an undergrad (on a phd forum lol) and use words like 'quip' very unsingaporean, then u claim qs is wrong u are correct, then now u resort to name calling.
why r u so sore...? oh dear ur beloved princeton got outranked....
i suspect tsinghua gonna outrank princeton soon with all the money the ccp is pumping into it lol...
waiii waiii...qs...waiii...this cant be happening...waiii...

I do not feed troll normally on EJMR, but your trollish behaviour seems to have reached newer heights with every message that you post.

For everyone on EJRM except for you, Princeton massively outranks NUS.

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Economist
8973

Would you say UIUC better than ICL (rank 8) or UCL (rank 10) in terms of engineering and science?

UIUC is s**t in any ranking

You clearly do not know much about UIUC. It may have a below-average economics department but its engineering and science departments are top notch.

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Economist
1aef

Guys, forget about this troll. Leave him be.

first u are in denial, then u pretend to be a sporean student but u claim to be an undergrad (on a phd forum lol) and use words like 'quip' very unsingaporean, then u claim qs is wrong u are correct, then now u resort to name calling.
why r u so sore...? oh dear ur beloved princeton got outranked....
i suspect tsinghua gonna outrank princeton soon with all the money the ccp is pumping into it lol...
waiii waiii...qs...waiii...this cant be happening...waiii...

Congrats bro. Your nation's reputation was damaged so badly in the past hour thanks to you.

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Economist
c7ce

Would you say UIUC better than ICL (rank 8) or UCL (rank 10) in terms of engineering and science?

UIUC is s**t in any ranking

You clearly do not know much about UIUC. It may have a below-average economics department but its engineering and science departments are top notch.

UIUC is at par or better than Imperial for sure and as far as basic sciences are concerned UIUC is at par with UCL. For engineering, UIUC blows UCL out of the water.

UIUC's research budget (627 million $) and output actually exceed both Imperial and UCL. And it is noteworthy considering that UIUC does not have a full-fledged medical school that Imperial and UCL have. For the uninformed, medical research requires significantly higher budgets and attracts greater research funding. (Adjusted for medical school budgets, UIUC even outranks Yale, Columbia and Duke in research expenditure)

Nature Index table is generally assumed to be an effective way to judge the effectiveness of university research in sciences. Even without a medical school, UIUC outranks both Imperial and UCL.

https://www.natureindex.com/annual-tables/2018/institution/academic/all

For some unexplained reason, even in the US, flagship state universities are looked over by a large section of the population for private universities.

With the newly opened Carle College of Medicine, I am sure that UIUC would gain significantly in the next few years. If anything else, UIUC is underrated.

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Economist
2b2c

THE world university reputation ranking is the best among all.
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2018/reputation-ranking#!/page/0/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

ARWU and CWUR rankings are much better. Times rankings seem to have a heavy British bias.

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Economist
d4eb

Would you say UIUC better than ICL (rank 8) or UCL (rank 10) in terms of engineering and science?

UIUC is s**t in any ranking

You clearly do not know much about UIUC. It may have a below-average economics department but its engineering and science departments are top notch.

UIUC is at par or better than Imperial for sure and as far as basic sciences are concerned UIUC is at par with UCL. For engineering, UIUC blows UCL out of the water.
UIUC's research budget (627 million $) and output actually exceed both Imperial and UCL. And it is noteworthy considering that UIUC does not have a full-fledged medical school that Imperial and UCL have. For the uninformed, medical research requires significantly higher budgets and attracts greater research funding. (Adjusted for medical school budgets, UIUC even outranks Yale, Columbia and Duke in research expenditure)
Nature Index table is generally assumed to be an effective way to judge the effectiveness of university research in sciences. Even without a medical school, UIUC outranks both Imperial and UCL.
https://www.natureindex.com/annual-tables/2018/institution/academic/all
For some unexplained reason, even in the US, flagship state universities are looked over by a large section of the population for private universities.
With the newly opened Carle College of Medicine, I am sure that UIUC would gain significantly in the next few years. If anything else, UIUC is underrated.

yeah we know how this board works, everything american is better. sporeans swiss british cannot have good unis, even if the figures clearly show that many good unis are producing good research that beats top us schools.

and anyway who cares about rankings? they all have their own sets of measurements...some better some worse no one cares.

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Economist
d4eb

Guys, forget about this troll. Leave him be.

first u are in denial, then u pretend to be a sporean student but u claim to be an undergrad (on a phd forum lol) and use words like 'quip' very unsingaporean, then u claim qs is wrong u are correct, then now u resort to name calling.
why r u so sore...? oh dear ur beloved princeton got outranked....
i suspect tsinghua gonna outrank princeton soon with all the money the ccp is pumping into it lol...
waiii waiii...qs...waiii...this cant be happening...waiii...

Congrats bro. Your nation's reputation was damaged so badly in the past hour thanks to you.

i couldnt care, the average american dont even know where spore is....zz.

btw are u fat, have no savings, up to ur neck in debt, on weed and have a gun in ur drawer in ur bedroom (just in case...)???

kind of like a broke man's trump?

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Economist
2b2c

Guys, forget about this troll. Leave him be.

first u are in denial, then u pretend to be a sporean student but u claim to be an undergrad (on a phd forum lol) and use words like 'quip' very unsingaporean, then u claim qs is wrong u are correct, then now u resort to name calling.
why r u so sore...? oh dear ur beloved princeton got outranked....
i suspect tsinghua gonna outrank princeton soon with all the money the ccp is pumping into it lol...
waiii waiii...qs...waiii...this cant be happening...waiii...

Congrats bro. Your nation's reputation was damaged so badly in the past hour thanks to you.

i couldnt care, the average american dont even know where spore is....zz.
btw are u fat, have no savings, up to ur neck in debt, on weed and have a gun in ur drawer in ur bedroom (just in case...)???
kind of like a broke man's trump?

You are deluded. Do you have an axe to grind as far as the US goes?

Your American stereotype isn't as common as you imagine it to be. And Asian universities do have a long way to go before they match up to elite American schools. They have gotten better over the past few decades but are yet to match top American schools.

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Economist
2b2c

When NUS does ultimately win 57 Nobel prizes to be at par with Yale, as an American I would consider NUS at par with Yale.

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Economist
e4e3

When NUS does ultimately win 57 Nobel prizes to be at par with Yale, as an American I would consider NUS at par with Yale.

When Yale produces more and better research than.nus in many departments I will consider Yale equal.to nus in those departments.

When guns are banned I may consider visiting Yale.

When ppl like u learn to start counting prizes from the date nus became a research uni I may talk to you.

When nobel prizes are not awarded by a board of European men who speak no Asian languages I may give a crap about them.

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Economist
772a

Again. Guys, why are you all wasting your time on that troll...

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Economist
d4eb

The Nobel Peace Prize 2012 was awarded to European Union (EU) "for over six decades contributed to the advancement of peace and reconciliation, democracy and human rights in Europe".

these guys just awarded themselves a prize lmao...and the whole eu thing has imploded and the whole group has not grown in gdp during the time they awarded themselves the prize.

hullo at least include the chinese russian indians on ur board to give urself some veneer of credibility nobel prize board!! whats this a white gentlemen club?? lmao.

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Economist
1aef

The Nobel Peace Prize 2012 was awarded to European Union (EU) "for over six decades contributed to the advancement of peace and reconciliation, democracy and human rights in Europe".
these guys just awarded themselves a prize lmao...and the whole eu thing has imploded and the whole group has not grown in gdp during the time they awarded themselves the prize.
hullo at least include the chinese russian indians on ur board to give urself some veneer of credibility nobel prize board!! whats this a white gentlemen club?? lmao.

Do you even have a bachelor degree?

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Economist
504f

The Nobel Peace Prize 2012 was awarded to European Union (EU) "for over six decades contributed to the advancement of peace and reconciliation, democracy and human rights in Europe".
these guys just awarded themselves a prize lmao...and the whole eu thing has imploded and the whole group has not grown in gdp during the time they awarded themselves the prize.
hullo at least include the chinese russian indians on ur board to give urself some veneer of credibility nobel prize board!! whats this a white gentlemen club?? lmao.

The Nobel Peace Prize has been controversial but prizes for sciences are largely meritocratic and are often deservingly won.

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Economist
504f

When NUS does ultimately win 57 Nobel prizes to be at par with Yale, as an American I would consider NUS at par with Yale.

When Yale produces more and better research than.nus in many departments I will consider Yale equal.to nus in those departments.
When guns are banned I may consider visiting Yale.
When ppl like u learn to start counting prizes from the date nus became a research uni I may talk to you.
When nobel prizes are not awarded by a board of European men who speak no Asian languages I may give a crap about them.

I have lost any semblance of respect that I had for NUS graduates. You seem bent on arguing that NUS excels Yale and Princeton.

Can you point out any 'world-class' research that NUS has conducted or is currently conducting? Can you provide facts and data to support your argument that NUS outperforms Yale and Princeton?

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Economist
0722

Princeton, Yale, Penn, and Berkely to toilet, confirmed.

And jokes aside, it was obvious from the beginning that the whole point of that ranking was to promote Chinese university. The strategy was: first, follow standard rankings to achieve some credibiliy, then, once people pay attention, start to promote Chinese universities.

Anyway, the joke is on you because these rankings don't mean sh!t anyway.

The new QS rankings seem to reach a newer depth.
How can the folks at QS seem to justify
Nanyang > Princeton; NUS > Yale; Tsinghua > Pennsylvania; ANU > Berkeley; Fudan > UIUC; Birmingham > WUSTL?
What gives? How can QS seem to be more absurd than ever before?

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