Why was the Sam Seder thread deleted while we still have threads on Trud3au, marriage law in Indonesia, etc? Why can't we make fun of libertarians on a forum for economists?
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EJMR has been completely unreadable today. Its amazing that Kirk spent god knows how many hours coding up OP delete and yet still hasn't addressed the fundamental problem that one idiot posting from his basement can completely fill up the front page of this site with his drivel any time he chooses.
We make fun of econspark and rightly so for not having any meaningful discussions about economics but is EJMR today (and for the past few months to varying degrees) really any better? Not really, not by much. If EJMR can't even meet that low bar, it truly doesn't deserve to exist.
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OP delete is awful. The only posters who use it are the spammers.
The past few years, I only have come here during job market season because the quality of the content is so low. We are closing in on the market and the quality of EJMR is as low as I can remember.
EJMR has been completely unreadable today. Its amazing that Kirk spent god knows how many hours coding up OP delete and yet still hasn't addressed the fundamental problem that one idiot posting from his basement can completely fill up the front page of this site with his drivel any time he chooses.
We make fun of econspark and rightly so for not having any meaningful discussions about economics but is EJMR today (and for the past few months to varying degrees) really any better? Not really, not by much. If EJMR can't even meet that low bar, it truly doesn't deserve to exist. -
the fundamental problem that one idiot posting from his basement can completely fill up the front page of this site with his drivel any time he chooses.
I keep saying that this problem can be trivially fixed by just making off topic filtered out by default, so you have to either go to the subforum directly or opt-in to see it on the front page.
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the fundamental problem that one idiot posting from his basement can completely fill up the front page of this site with his drivel any time he chooses.
I keep saying that this problem can be trivially fixed by just making off topic filtered out by default, so you have to either go to the subforum directly or opt-in to see it on the front page.
If you seriously think the spammers won’t just start posting in “economics discussion”, you’re delusional.
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If you seriously think the spammers won’t just start posting in “economics discussion”, you’re delusional.
So why don't they do it now? Or, to be more specific, why don't they do it more often now?
When you create a new topic, you have to choose the subforum. The first option actually is Economics Discussion. Yet, most spammers currently post in Off Topic, which requires them to either scroll down or type "o."
So again, why don't they spam in Economics Discussion now? Is it because mods actually delete spam in Economics Discussion?
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Because it still shows up on the front page.
If you seriously think the spammers won’t just start posting in “economics discussion”, you’re delusional.
So why don't they do it now? Or, to be more specific, why don't they do it more often now?
When you create a new topic, you have to choose the subforum. The first option actually is Economics Discussion. Yet, most spammers currently post in Off Topic, which requires them to either scroll down or type "o."
So again, why don't they spam in Economics Discussion now? Is it because mods actually delete spam in Economics Discussion? -
Also, you have a lot of very specific insight into how much effort takes for our spammers to post in off topic vs economics discussion. Are you positively sure you aren’t a spammer?
So why don't they do it now? Or, to be more specific, why don't they do it more often now?
When you create a new topic, you have to choose the subforum. The first option actually is Economics Discussion. Yet, most spammers currently post in Off Topic, which requires them to either scroll down or type "o."
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Also, you have a lot of very specific insight into how much effort takes for our spammers to post in off topic vs economics discussion. Are you positively sure you aren’t a spammer?
606c from another IP. You're really dumb if you think double checking how to create a new topic is "a lot of very specific insight." But I suppose I should've guessed that because you couldn't explain why spammers aren't currently posting to Economics Discussion (which takes less effort than posting to Off Topic).
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Also, you have a lot of very specific insight into how much effort takes for our spammers to post in off topic vs economics discussion. Are you positively sure you aren’t a spammer?
606c from another IP. You're really dumb if you think double checking how to create a new topic is "a lot of very specific insight." But I suppose I should've guessed that because you couldn't explain why spammers aren't currently posting to Economics Discussion (which takes less effort than posting to Off Topic).
Like I said before, it’s because it still shows up on the front page.
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Kirk:
WHY is it that registered, logged-in users reporting posts get no more weight in eliminating garbage?
WHY does post content (e.g. certain words) not affect the likelihood of accepting delete suggestions?
WHY is there no link to recommend deleting an entire thread?And WHY, for all that is holy, do you not have a system that weights the number of delete suggestions from registered users to build an adaptive list of bot-delete words? Hell, just take the most commonly-suggested deletions, run the words through a un-h4x0r-izing filter, remove neutral words (like "the"), and then find words which raise the likelihood of bot deletion. It's damn simple and if you eliminate most of the trolls' work, they will go elsewhere.
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Suggestion: How about mods start one mega-thread for 2020 presidential election?
It seems inevitable that people will start threads about the election. Some because they are unrependent spammers. Some because they don't know the rules about no politics.
In either case, considering a lot of us do work on policy and political economy and we keep up with debates, it seems reasonable to have 1 thread about the presidential election. It provide an avenue to discuss the economics of policy proposals, especially those raised in debates.
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Kirk:
WHY is it that registered, logged-in users reporting posts get no more weight in eliminating garbage?
WHY does post content (e.g. certain words) not affect the likelihood of accepting delete suggestions?
WHY is there no link to recommend deleting an entire thread?
And WHY, for all that is holy, do you not have a system that weights the number of delete suggestions from registered users to build an adaptive list of bot-delete words? Hell, just take the most commonly-suggested deletions, run the words through a un-h4x0r-izing filter, remove neutral words (like "the"), and then find words which raise the likelihood of bot deletion. It's damn simple and if you eliminate most of the trolls' work, they will go elsewhere.Follow the money, bro. These issues and (similarly good) suggestions have been raised for years. Kirk is making bank as things stand. Why would he change?