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• Thread: 322 Goods vs 111 No Goods

1. Economist
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   Student evaluations should simply be scrapped for the sake of retaining quality content. Modules become thinner by the year because of this. Then you wonder about the declining quality of students every year.

   Our department moderates teaching evaluations in light of perceived course difficulty (reported by students) and class GPA. Professors get greater latitude when the latter two indicate the course is challenging.
   This seems such an obvious route for a department to take. Do most not follow this?

   No, most departments don't do this, but they should, this is alarge part of the problem , poor implementation of teaching evaluation systems, that lead to gaming the system and sub-optimal outcomes for everyone students included.

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2. Economist
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   ^I'll add the death of theory isn't just due to computers and the ubiquity of data, a large part of the blame lies with teaching evaluations that have have made it too difficult to educate the next generation of theorists.

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3. Economist
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   Student evaluations should simply be scrapped for the sake of retaining quality content. Modules become thinner by the year because of this. Then you wonder about the declining quality of students every year.

   Our department moderates teaching evaluations in light of perceived course difficulty (reported by students) and class GPA. Professors get greater latitude when the latter two indicate the course is challenging.
   This seems such an obvious route for a department to take. Do most not follow this?

   No, most departments don't do this, but they should, this is alarge part of the problem , poor implementation of teaching evaluation systems, that lead to gaming the system and sub-optimal outcomes for everyone students included.

   Ours considers them not at all, given a system wide analysis showed that students were strongly biased against women and minorities in their evaluations (asians really). Students also hated quant classes, but that seems fair.

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4. Economist
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   Student evaluations should simply be scrapped for the sake of retaining quality content. Modules become thinner by the year because of this. Then you wonder about the declining quality of students every year.

   Our department moderates teaching evaluations in light of perceived course difficulty (reported by students) and class GPA. Professors get greater latitude when the latter two indicate the course is challenging.
   This seems such an obvious route for a department to take. Do most not follow this?

   No, most departments don't do this, but they should, this is alarge part of the problem , poor implementation of teaching evaluation systems, that lead to gaming the system and sub-optimal outcomes for everyone students included.

   Ours considers them not at all, given a system wide analysis showed that students were strongly biased against women and minorities in their evaluations (asians really). Students also hated quant classes, but that seems fair.

   why would you enrol in a quant discipline and then complain you don't like the quant part of the discipline, something isn't right in these peoples heads.

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5. Economist
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   why would you enrol in a quant discipline and then complain you don't like the quant part of the discipline, something isn't right in these peoples heads.

   19 year olds aren't smart

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6. Economist
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   how are University actually did it analysis where they controlled her factors including required versus electives, time of day, etc and they found that women outperform men in teaching evaluations. The problem is that they tend to be more Junior so they get assigned to less popular required classes at 8 in the morning oh, so in the cross section be left worse but they actually do better

   Of course the minority professors still underperform despite does level setting instead of the campaign against teaching ratings marches apace

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7. Economist
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   Our university weights by class size and student reported interest in the subject at time of enrollment. The latter really is a useless metric.

   No accounting for GPA or distribution of majors to non-majors. I find the latter has a large impact on mean evaluation score.

   I always laugh when I look at the distribution of self-reported investment of effort into the class. The lowest performing students will grade themselves at worst a 3/5 in terms of effort. At the same time, grading the instructor a 2/5 or 1/5 for overall evaluation.

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8. Economist
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   Honestly, who cares?
   Teach as you believe it should be taught to understand the topics and ignore the feedback. You can't be voted out of the university by students.

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Post <blockquote>There are so many ways to screw up your teaching evaluation score by actually doing the right thing. A simple solution - report the joint distribution of evaluation score, course attendance, and grade in the course (or semester/cumulative GPA) by student. Someone who got 0's from the bottom 10% of the class (or those who never attended) but 5's from the rest shouldn't be viewed the same as someone who got 0's from the top of the class but 5's from the rest. If anonymity is an issue, at least report correlations and stuff like that.</blockquote>

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