These threads keep popping up on ejmr and get upvoted. It's pretty clear that many of you are bitter lemons who think you're not being appreciated by the institution. For soem of you this might be true, but let' be honest here: most of you are lemons and not as good as you think you are. You need to stop whining and get a life. People with actual lives dont waste their time on internet forums complaining like this.
Things are going to fall apart because we're wasting our top talent.
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These threads keep popping up on ejmr and get upvoted. It's pretty clear that many of you are bitter lemons who think you're not being appreciated by the institution. For soem of you this might be true, but let' be honest here: most of you are lemons and not as good as you think you are. You need to stop whining and get a life. People with actual lives dont waste their time on internet forums complaining like this.
There are plenty of strong non-lemon mathematicians who struggle to get decent TT positions. Job candidates can be divided to three groups: 1. stars, 2. not stars but competitive for the job market, and 3. not competitive for the job market.
A huge percentage of the second group ends up not getting decent academic jobs (such people would easily land such jobs several decades ago), and some of them end up on EJMR writing posts like that.
The third group (aka lemons) are usually aware of being lemons and therefore are not angry at the system as they don’t think that they were wronged.
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These threads keep popping up on ejmr and get upvoted. It's pretty clear that many of you are bitter lemons who think you're not being appreciated by the institution. For soem of you this might be true, but let' be honest here: most of you are lemons and not as good as you think you are. You need to stop whining and get a life. People with actual lives dont waste their time on internet forums complaining like this.
Like you, complaining about their complaining on this very board.
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People say these thing all the time but truth could be different. Was talking to an old sports coach who has followed sports for 40 years and a ove and he said that today's kids are much better in sports and athletics. The standards of sports like football and tennis have all increased greatly. Maybe the elites were not so great and opportunity for others has leveled the field.
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I was a math PhD student at a top 20 department. Almost everyone who had a good pub record ended up getting jobs at very good departments. Maybe things have changed significantly since then but I doubt it. The fact of the matter is that a lot of PhDs aren't cut out for research. Sure there are a lot of women who are getting jobs they dont deserve but they usually know it and live in shame.
These threads keep popping up on ejmr and get upvoted. It's pretty clear that many of you are bitter lemons who think you're not being appreciated by the institution. For soem of you this might be true, but let' be honest here: most of you are lemons and not as good as you think you are. You need to stop whining and get a life. People with actual lives dont waste their time on internet forums complaining like this.
There are plenty of strong non-lemon mathematicians who struggle to get decent TT positions. Job candidates can be divided to three groups: 1. stars, 2. not stars but competitive for the job market, and 3. not competitive for the job market.
A huge percentage of the second group ends up not getting decent academic jobs (such people would easily land such jobs several decades ago), and some of them end up on EJMR writing posts like that.
The third group (aka lemons) are usually aware of being lemons and therefore are not angry at the system as they don’t think that they were wronged. -
People on ejmr have a c/aste mentality. They think life is like a formula and if you graduate from a top school then you should be given a job or something. So many turbo ner/ds who have been top students their entire life are now struggling with research and job search. It's pretty sad.
People say these thing all the time but truth could be different. Was talking to an old sports coach who has followed sports for 40 years and a ove and he said that today's kids are much better in sports and athletics. The standards of sports like football and tennis have all increased greatly. Maybe the elites were not so great and opportunity for others has leveled the field.
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I was a math PhD student at a top 20 department. Almost everyone who had a good pub record ended up getting jobs at very good departments. Maybe things have changed significantly since then but I doubt it. The fact of the matter is that a lot of PhDs aren't cut out for research. Sure there are a lot of women who are getting jobs they dont deserve but they usually know it and live in shame.
These threads keep popping up on ejmr and get upvoted. It's pretty clear that many of you are bitter lemons who think you're not being appreciated by the institution. For soem of you this might be true, but let' be honest here: most of you are lemons and not as good as you think you are. You need to stop whining and get a life. People with actual lives dont waste their time on internet forums complaining like this.
There are plenty of strong non-lemon mathematicians who struggle to get decent TT positions. Job candidates can be divided to three groups: 1. stars, 2. not stars but competitive for the job market, and 3. not competitive for the job market.
A huge percentage of the second group ends up not getting decent academic jobs (such people would easily land such jobs several decades ago), and some of them end up on EJMR writing posts like that.
The third group (aka lemons) are usually aware of being lemons and therefore are not angry at the system as they don’t think that they were wronged.
Your biased sample is certainly very different than mine. Look at this guy for example, five years post PhD and still no TT job: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~matthhar/
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These threads keep popping up on ejmr and get upvoted. It's pretty clear that many of you are bitter lemons who think you're not being appreciated by the institution. For soem of you this might be true, but let' be honest here: most of you are lemons and not as good as you think you are. You need to stop whining and get a life. People with actual lives dont waste their time on internet forums complaining like this.
There are plenty of strong non-lemon mathematicians who struggle to get decent TT positions. Job candidates can be divided to three groups: 1. stars, 2. not stars but competitive for the job market, and 3. not competitive for the job market.
A huge percentage of the second group ends up not getting decent academic jobs (such people would easily land such jobs several decades ago), and some of them end up on EJMR writing posts like that.
The third group (aka lemons) are usually aware of being lemons and therefore are not angry at the system as they don’t think that they were wronged.4. stars not competitive for the job market.
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These threads keep popping up on ejmr and get upvoted. It's pretty clear that many of you are bitter lemons who think you're not being appreciated by the institution. For soem of you this might be true, but let' be honest here: most of you are lemons and not as good as you think you are. You need to stop whining and get a life. People with actual lives dont waste their time on internet forums complaining like this.
There are plenty of strong non-lemon mathematicians who struggle to get decent TT positions. Job candidates can be divided to three groups: 1. stars, 2. not stars but competitive for the job market, and 3. not competitive for the job market.
A huge percentage of the second group ends up not getting decent academic jobs (such people would easily land such jobs several decades ago), and some of them end up on EJMR writing posts like that.
The third group (aka lemons) are usually aware of being lemons and therefore are not angry at the system as they don’t think that they were wronged.4. stars not competitive for the job market.
What do you mean by that?
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These threads keep popping up on ejmr and get upvoted. It's pretty clear that many of you are bitter lemons who think you're not being appreciated by the institution. For soem of you this might be true, but let' be honest here: most of you are lemons and not as good as you think you are. You need to stop whining and get a life. People with actual lives dont waste their time on internet forums complaining like this.
There are plenty of strong non-lemon mathematicians who struggle to get decent TT positions. Job candidates can be divided to three groups: 1. stars, 2. not stars but competitive for the job market, and 3. not competitive for the job market.
A huge percentage of the second group ends up not getting decent academic jobs (such people would easily land such jobs several decades ago), and some of them end up on EJMR writing posts like that.
The third group (aka lemons) are usually aware of being lemons and therefore are not angry at the system as they don’t think that they were wronged.4. stars not competitive for the job market.
What do you mean by that?
not all stars are competitive.
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It's pretty sad. Fewer people are going to medical school or STEM in general. More are becoming lawyers, accountants, or some other paper pusher profession. People are going into tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars of student loan debt to major in something that pays $40k per year. It doesn't take a genius to see how this is going to play out over the next few decades.
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lawyers? these people are not talented. They go into law because they cant do anything else.
It's pretty sad. Fewer people are going to medical school or STEM in general. More are becoming lawyers, accountants, or some other paper pusher profession. People are going into tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars of student loan debt to major in something that pays $40k per year. It doesn't take a genius to see how this is going to play out over the next few decades.
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Almost all of the people I knew in grad school who were "strong" got great TT jobs at R1 schools. Maybe this guy can't teach or something.
I was a math PhD student at a top 20 department. Almost everyone who had a good pub record ended up getting jobs at very good departments. Maybe things have changed significantly since then but I doubt it. The fact of the matter is that a lot of PhDs aren't cut out for research. Sure there are a lot of women who are getting jobs they dont deserve but they usually know it and live in shame.
These threads keep popping up on ejmr and get upvoted. It's pretty clear that many of you are bitter lemons who think you're not being appreciated by the institution. For soem of you this might be true, but let' be honest here: most of you are lemons and not as good as you think you are. You need to stop whining and get a life. People with actual lives dont waste their time on internet forums complaining like this.
There are plenty of strong non-lemon mathematicians who struggle to get decent TT positions. Job candidates can be divided to three groups: 1. stars, 2. not stars but competitive for the job market, and 3. not competitive for the job market.
A huge percentage of the second group ends up not getting decent academic jobs (such people would easily land such jobs several decades ago), and some of them end up on EJMR writing posts like that.
The third group (aka lemons) are usually aware of being lemons and therefore are not angry at the system as they don’t think that they were wronged.
Your biased sample is certainly very different than mine. Look at this guy for example, five years post PhD and still no TT job: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~matthhar/
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These threads keep popping up on ejmr and get upvoted. It's pretty clear that many of you are bitter lemons who think you're not being appreciated by the institution. For soem of you this might be true, but let' be honest here: most of you are lemons and not as good as you think you are. You need to stop whining and get a life. People with actual lives dont waste their time on internet forums complaining like this.
There are plenty of strong non-lemon mathematicians who struggle to get decent TT positions. Job candidates can be divided to three groups: 1. stars, 2. not stars but competitive for the job market, and 3. not competitive for the job market.
A huge percentage of the second group ends up not getting decent academic jobs (such people would easily land such jobs several decades ago), and some of them end up on EJMR writing posts like that.
The third group (aka lemons) are usually aware of being lemons and therefore are not angry at the system as they don’t think that they were wronged.4. stars not competitive for the job market.
The difference between 1,2,3 is often due to politics and not research quality. I know faculty at places like MIT who are there for nepotism reasons, even in the current DEI-charged environment. In one egregious case, the person was hired without applying because one of their parents was an very high-level executive at a Fortune 500 company.
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lawyers? these people are not talented. They go into law because they cant do anything else.
It's pretty sad. Fewer people are going to medical school or STEM in general. More are becoming lawyers, accountants, or some other paper pusher profession. People are going into tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars of student loan debt to major in something that pays $40k per year. It doesn't take a genius to see how this is going to play out over the next few decades.
Anecdotally, many of the top GPA people I knew from college and HS ended up being lawyers. They could have been anything they wanted to be but chose that instead.
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lmao, yeah right. Lawyers are mostly humanities grads. they are weak.
lawyers? these people are not talented. They go into law because they cant do anything else.
It's pretty sad. Fewer people are going to medical school or STEM in general. More are becoming lawyers, accountants, or some other paper pusher profession. People are going into tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars of student loan debt to major in something that pays $40k per year. It doesn't take a genius to see how this is going to play out over the next few decades.
Anecdotally, many of the top GPA people I knew from college and HS ended up being lawyers. They could have been anything they wanted to be but chose that instead.
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I think that in chess, it can be objectively established that the greats of the past would be great by today's standards too. There may be a much bigger pack chasing them though. The fact that more people are active in essentially unproductive endeavors like chess can't be great..
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Elite overproduction is bad enough already. So in their great wisdom, Our Betters throw artificially boost women and URMs into the contest, a position for which they would generally never be naturally competitive. Everyone's forced to assent to it because otherwise you'd be signaling low status. Just lol. What a re tarde d scam.