I won't confirm nor deny whether this is true, but as a faculty at Columbia I guarantee the way this entire process has been handled by her advisor has been simply appalling and made me lose all respect for him. We had much better students - perhaps not as "polished" (aka full of bs) - either directly competing with her or in other fields who are getting much worse placements. These include at least 3 women (although 2 are white and one Chinese, perhaps that's not diverse enough). In fact, I got calls from two places saying that she crowded out some of these other students because of "aggressive selling". I've seen many shenani gans over the years, but regardless of her placement this has been really something.
VM Columbia to Stern
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I won't confirm nor deny whether this is true, but as a faculty at Columbia I guarantee the way this entire process has been handled by her advisor has been simply appalling and made me lose all respect for him. We had much better students - perhaps not as "polished" (aka full of bs) - either directly competing with her or in other fields who are getting much worse placements. These include at least 3 women (although 2 are white and one Chinese, perhaps that's not diverse enough). In fact, I got calls from two places saying that she crowded out some of these other students because of "aggressive selling". I've seen many shenani gans over the years, but regardless of her placement this has been really something.
What process? Even if what you say is true, why would a good department like NYU hire her? Makes no sense, he doesn’t control any major journal, and stern has enough people who could tell him to fo. Why would stern hire her then?
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Since 90% of things that happen in academia are unobservable to outsiders (including apparent connections, editorships etc.), that's a really bad way to analyze how things play out in general.
I won't confirm nor deny whether this is true, but as a faculty at Columbia I guarantee the way this entire process has been handled by her advisor has been simply appalling and made me lose all respect for him. We had much better students - perhaps not as "polished" (aka full of bs) - either directly competing with her or in other fields who are getting much worse placements. These include at least 3 women (although 2 are white and one Chinese, perhaps that's not diverse enough). In fact, I got calls from two places saying that she crowded out some of these other students because of "aggressive selling". I've seen many shenani gans over the years, but regardless of her placement this has been really something.
What process? Even if what you say is true, why would a good department like NYU hire her? Makes no sense, he doesn’t control any major journal, and stern has enough people who could tell him to fo. Why would stern hire her then?
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Since 90% of things that happen in academia are unobservable to outsiders (including apparent connections, editorships etc.), that's a really bad way to analyze how things play out in general.
I won't confirm nor deny whether this is true, but as a faculty at Columbia I guarantee the way this entire process has been handled by her advisor has been simply appalling and made me lose all respect for him. We had much better students - perhaps not as "polished" (aka full of bs) - either directly competing with her or in other fields who are getting much worse placements. These include at least 3 women (although 2 are white and one Chinese, perhaps that's not diverse enough). In fact, I got calls from two places saying that she crowded out some of these other students because of "aggressive selling". I've seen many shenani gans over the years, but regardless of her placement this has been really something.
What process? Even if what you say is true, why would a good department like NYU hire her? Makes no sense, he doesn’t control any major journal, and stern has enough people who could tell him to fo. Why would stern hire her then?
Admit I’m an outsider, at an MRM. No connections with Columbia or stern. VM did present at our department and what I can tell you is nobody voted for her to be hired. One of our students had a JMP in an area that overlaps with hers and she’s struggling to get an LRM job and we (with some bias) feel she was better than VM. IMO if VM gets a job it’s only because of a good advisor and not because of abilities.
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I won't confirm nor deny whether this is true, but as a faculty at Columbia I guarantee the way this entire process has been handled by her advisor has been simply appalling and made me lose all respect for him. We had much better students - perhaps not as "polished" (aka full of bs) - either directly competing with her or in other fields who are getting much worse placements. These include at least 3 women (although 2 are white and one Chinese, perhaps that's not diverse enough). In fact, I got calls from two places saying that she crowded out some of these other students because of "aggressive selling". I've seen many shenani gans over the years, but regardless of her placement this has been really something.
Are you tenured?
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I wonder what made stern hire a known lemon
I haven’t seen her or her letters, but if it’s true that her advisers oversold, It still makes sense if all they care about is publications.
An adviser going overboard is like that adviser saying, “i will do what it takes to make this person succeed.” I mean, the letter itself is proof. Getting the job would be proof. You certainly don’t need talent to succeed in academia.
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I wonder what made stern hire a known lemon
I haven’t seen her or her letters, but if it’s true that her advisers oversold, It still makes sense if all they care about is publications.
An adviser going overboard is like that adviser saying, “i will do what it takes to make this person succeed.” I mean, the letter itself is proof. Getting the job would be proof. You certainly don’t need talent to succeed in academia.What? This makes no sense whatsoever
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What? This makes no sense whatsoever
Her adviser can coauthor with her, introduce her to editors etc. That costs the adviser nothing. plus if she’s placed at a top school, shell have all those advantages as well.
Why would any advisor do that if she’s a total lemon? I’d never co-author with my lemon students. My other co-authors also wouldn’t want to be involved. Seems like a bit too much just to place a student well.
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Why would any advisor do that if she’s a total lemon? I’d never co-author with my lemon students. My other co-authors also wouldn’t want to be involved. Seems like a bit too much just to place a student well.
Isn’t that why it works?
Why would so-and-so write an over-the-top letter for some mediocre JMC they aren’t going to support? Either the student is good, or the adviser is proving they are personally invested in that students success.
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Why would any advisor do that if she’s a total lemon? I’d never co-author with my lemon students. My other co-authors also wouldn’t want to be involved. Seems like a bit too much just to place a student well.
Isn’t that why it works?
Why would so-and-so write an over-the-top letter for some mediocre JMC they aren’t going to support? Either the student is good, or the adviser is proving they are personally invested in that students success.Btw I have no idea if she is good or not, I’ve never met her. Just speculating