We have interviewed many good candiates these days, and will send our offers soon.
Welcome to Wuhan University
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If there’s one job that’s closest to modern slave.ry in Chinese academia, it has to be Wuhan’s “assistant professor” (really it’s just postdoc) position.
At least, they made it clear this year. If you have some pub, you will be "预聘讲师"，if you have A- pub, you will be "untenured associate professor", if you have no pub, you will be postdoc in contract but still have AP title, but the promotion is the same as "预聘讲师"
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No. They’ve been clear about that for years. What they don’t say (and whats arguably much more important) is that you will have to compete in the entire university, against many other APs in STEM, for tenure, which makes it nearly impossible. The job is essentially a 3 year postdoc contract, regardless of how many pubs you have and whatever title they give you.
If there’s one job that’s closest to modern slave.ry in Chinese academia, it has to be Wuhan’s “assistant professor” (really it’s just postdoc) position.
At least, they made it clear this year. If you have some pub, you will be "预聘讲师"，if you have A- pub, you will be "untenured associate professor", if you have no pub, you will be postdoc in contract but still have AP title, but the promotion is the same as "预聘讲师"
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No. They’ve been clear about that for years. What they don’t say (and whats arguably much more important) is that you will have to compete in the entire university, against many other APs in STEM, for tenure, which makes it nearly impossible. The job is essentially a 3 year postdoc contract, regardless of how many pubs you have and whatever title they give you.
If there’s one job that’s closest to modern slave.ry in Chinese academia, it has to be Wuhan’s “assistant professor” (really it’s just postdoc) position.
At least, they made it clear this year. If you have some pub, you will be "预聘讲师"，if you have A- pub, you will be "untenured associate professor", if you have no pub, you will be postdoc in contract but still have AP title, but the promotion is the same as "预聘讲师"
In the recruiting meeting this year, they said most of the recent promotion pass the Uni approve. And if you reach the department requirement (2A- or 1A1B), it will certainly not fail. I wondered is there any previous cases who reach the department requirement but fail to be promoted?
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No. They’ve been clear about that for years. What they don’t say (and whats arguably much more important) is that you will have to compete in the entire university, against many other APs in STEM, for tenure, which makes it nearly impossible. The job is essentially a 3 year postdoc contract, regardless of how many pubs you have and whatever title they give you.
If there’s one job that’s closest to modern slave.ry in Chinese academia, it has to be Wuhan’s “assistant professor” (really it’s just postdoc) position.
At least, they made it clear this year. If you have some pub, you will be "预聘讲师"，if you have A- pub, you will be "untenured associate professor", if you have no pub, you will be postdoc in contract but still have AP title, but the promotion is the same as "预聘讲师"
In the recruiting meeting this year, they said most of the recent promotion pass the Uni approve. And if you reach the department requirement (2A- or 1A1B), it will certainly not fail. I wondered is there any previous cases who reach the department requirement but fail to be promoted?
Also, they said if you have A- pub, you will be recruited as untenured associate professor. Essentially, you only have 6th year evaluation. Not sure it will be implemented as they said .......
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No. They’ve been clear about that for years. What they don’t say (and whats arguably much more important) is that you will have to compete in the entire university, against many other APs in STEM, for tenure, which makes it nearly impossible. The job is essentially a 3 year postdoc contract, regardless of how many pubs you have and whatever title they give you.
If there’s one job that’s closest to modern slave.ry in Chinese academia, it has to be Wuhan’s “assistant professor” (really it’s just postdoc) position.
At least, they made it clear this year. If you have some pub, you will be "预聘讲师"，if you have A- pub, you will be "untenured associate professor", if you have no pub, you will be postdoc in contract but still have AP title, but the promotion is the same as "预聘讲师"
In the recruiting meeting this year, they said most of the recent promotion pass the Uni approve. And if you reach the department requirement (2A- or 1A1B), it will certainly not fail. I wondered is there any previous cases who reach the department requirement but fail to be promoted?
yes there were, do not believe entirely what the department said or promised.
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这里用中文说下，其实问题很简单，第一，说是六年合同，三年会有评估吗？18年的时候学校三年评估可是搞走了很多人。第二，六年合同过了会怎么样？按照去年的case，是不是不愿意给你长聘？要么继续签非升即走的合同？要么降薪加入事业编？我记得事业编在那里是稀缺品，很难拿到的。另外不要完全相信他们所说的一切，他们说的不算，学校层面才管用，比如学校说要变动一些合同内容或是考核要求，学院方面的对你的承诺没有作用
1.三年有评估，而且标准随时会变/取决于领导；2.六年过了之后如果达到考核要求，则强制降薪转入事业编，月薪1.1万，that means，你连继续签非升即走合同拿高一点的薪资的机会都没有；3.学院说的确实什么都不算，去年学院给的招聘offer上报到学校大部分都被拒了，而且还是在job market之后毁约，大部分candidates不得不重新上market，坑了一大批人
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If there’s one job that’s closest to modern slave.ry in Chinese academia, it has to be Wuhan’s “assistant professor” (really it’s just postdoc) position.
At least, they made it clear this year. If you have some pub, you will be "预聘讲师"，if you have A- pub, you will be "untenured associate professor", if you have no pub, you will be postdoc in contract but still have AP title, but the promotion is the same as "预聘讲师"
Don't believe it, bro...
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And hands up if you want to be sc/r/ewed up this year!
这里用中文说下，其实问题很简单，第一，说是六年合同，三年会有评估吗？18年的时候学校三年评估可是搞走了很多人。第二，六年合同过了会怎么样？按照去年的case，是不是不愿意给你长聘？要么继续签非升即走的合同？要么降薪加入事业编？我记得事业编在那里是稀缺品，很难拿到的。另外不要完全相信他们所说的一切，他们说的不算，学校层面才管用，比如学校说要变动一些合同内容或是考核要求，学院方面的对你的承诺没有作用
1.三年有评估，而且标准随时会变/取决于领导；2.六年过了之后如果达到考核要求，则强制降薪转入事业编，月薪1.1万，that means，你连继续签非升即走合同拿高一点的薪资的机会都没有；3.学院说的确实什么都不算，去年学院给的招聘offer上报到学校大部分都被拒了，而且还是在job market之后毁约，大部分candidates不得不重新上market，坑了一大批人
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感谢分享，tenured之后的那点月薪再加上一些公积金和补贴，年底奖励，算一个月两万块，如果有更好的选择，还是不建议选武汉大学了
这里用中文说下，其实问题很简单，第一，说是六年合同，三年会有评估吗？18年的时候学校三年评估可是搞走了很多人。第二，六年合同过了会怎么样？按照去年的case，是不是不愿意给你长聘？要么继续签非升即走的合同？要么降薪加入事业编？我记得事业编在那里是稀缺品，很难拿到的。另外不要完全相信他们所说的一切，他们说的不算，学校层面才管用，比如学校说要变动一些合同内容或是考核要求，学院方面的对你的承诺没有作用
1.三年有评估，而且标准随时会变/取决于领导；2.六年过了之后如果达到考核要求，则强制降薪转入事业编，月薪1.1万，that means，你连继续签非升即走合同拿高一点的薪资的机会都没有；3.学院说的确实什么都不算，去年学院给的招聘offer上报到学校大部分都被拒了，而且还是在job market之后毁约，大部分candidates不得不重新上market，坑了一大批人
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对了，有提到发表只认可通讯作者和第一作者呢？共同通讯或一作不算？这点在国内非常重要
At least, they made it clear this year. If you have some pub, you will be "预聘讲师"，if you have A- pub, you will be "untenured associate professor", if you have no pub, you will be postdoc in contract but still have AP title, but the promotion is the same as "预聘讲师"
In the recruiting meeting this year, they said most of the recent promotion pass the Uni approve. And if you reach the department requirement (2A- or 1A1B), it will certainly not fail. I wondered is there any previous cases who reach the department requirement but fail to be promoted?