man this thread is der/a/nged. you guys need to get out more.
i used to think this, but you know what? I see this same conversation happening basically everywhere on the internet
What will the 30+ yo unmarried millennial women do in the coming years
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they will have to compete with 18-25 yo gen Z girls for the small fraction of eligible 30 yo male bachelors with solid careers
what will the consequences of this demographic trend be?It's pretty simple --millennial women are perfectly comfortable being single mothers to sperm-bank babies. They won't mind one bit being the sole parent, and they'll get to be selective of the genes that will lead to their children.
I think op is a single male who is hoping that such women who rejected him will somehow come to regret their choices. Spoiler: they won't! The future will have armies of unpartnered men who will toil in misery.Most realistic take ever.
For 1000s of years, women relied on men just to survive. The bond was broken in the 1960s and we're seeing the consequences.
They don't need men anymore; and due to VR and constant videos of their fav celebrity crushes, their brain tricks them to thinking they are dating them/or can date them. They rather wait for a Mr.Perfect or raise a child as a single mother nowadays.Lack of functional fathers is not going so well for certain minority groups in the US
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Big picture, since we’re all scientists here, most men never reproduced throughout history. They were used as sl@ves or soldiers and k!lled early. We have something like 90% less diverse Y chromosomes compared to X.
Monogamous marriage was invented to stabilize agricultural society, so that all farmers had social support and child labor. Now, that model is broken and we’re reverting back to our prehistoric ways. Most men won’t do well.Child labor has been replaced by RA labor
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they will have to compete with 18-25 yo gen Z girls for the small fraction of eligible 30 yo male bachelors with solid careers
what will the consequences of this demographic trend be?It's pretty simple --millennial women are perfectly comfortable being single mothers to sperm-bank babies. They won't mind one bit being the sole parent, and they'll get to be selective of the genes that will lead to their children.
I think op is a single male who is hoping that such women who rejected him will somehow come to regret their choices. Spoiler: they won't! The future will have armies of unpartnered men who will toil in misery.Many will do this, but it will not be nearly as common as you make it out to be …
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they will have to compete with 18-25 yo gen Z girls for the small fraction of eligible 30 yo male bachelors with solid careers
what will the consequences of this demographic trend be?It's pretty simple --millennial women are perfectly comfortable being single mothers to sperm-bank babies. They won't mind one bit being the sole parent, and they'll get to be selective of the genes that will lead to their children.
I think op is a single male who is hoping that such women who rejected him will somehow come to regret their choices. Spoiler: they won't! The future will have armies of unpartnered men who will toil in misery.Many will do this, but it will not be nearly as common as you make it out to be …
Agreed, at the end of the day it's no cakewalk to raise a child, and the help of a Mr. Imperfect can make the difference. Also, although many women would deny this to their friends, they admit at least to themselves that loneliness sucks. The company of a child is not enough for an adult.
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More single-mother households. More whi/ning on the Internet from unfiec/ked men.
Am I the only broette who looks forward to becoming a single mom? I feel like most women have to take care of the grown baby (partner) on top of the little baby...
if a high-quality man comes my way, he's welcome to join. They are so few though. An example is this very site. So many little men intimidated by every little thing. -
obama was raised by a single mom ;-)
This will be disastrous if true. The children of single mothers are more likely to be basket cases and/or cr1minals. Just look at what happened to inner cities after the dissolution of the blck family in the 1970s. This societal rot will infect poor and middle class whyte communities as well. The children of rich single women will be socially awkward and lack emotional control. Meanwhile, without the prospect of romance or family life, many men will partially disengage from the labor market (reducing aggregate productivity) and either become never-do-wells or get lost in the cyber realm. Many of those that don't get lost in cyberspace will still be resentful and angry. Demagogues will take advantage of the situation to "give these men a purpose" in pursuit of revolutionary causes. If unchecked these trends will lead to national ruin. Healthy gender relations are a fundamental building block of society. That is why many nations historically placed checks on pr0miscuity to ensure domestic stability.
they will have to compete with 18-25 yo gen Z girls for the small fraction of eligible 30 yo male bachelors with solid careers
what will the consequences of this demographic trend be?It's pretty simple --millennial women are perfectly comfortable being single mothers to sperm-bank babies. They won't mind one bit being the sole parent, and they'll get to be selective of the genes that will lead to their children.
I think op is a single male who is hoping that such women who rejected him will somehow come to regret their choices. Spoiler: they won't! The future will have armies of unpartnered men who will toil in misery.
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Being a single mom is terrible. It's much harder than having a husband, assuming a husband who has a job and isn't abusive or something. Most husbands will provide at least some childcare, and will provide additional income to the household. Even if you end up doing all of the housework, cooking and cleaning for 3 is not much harder than cooking or cleaning for 2. The idea that husbands are grown babies is a sitcom stereotype -- an actual baby is orders of magnitude of more work than a husband.
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Bama was raised by his grandparents on Hawaii. Check out who they were. Those were some powerful people. Bama was a project, not an individual.
obama was raised by a single mom ;-)
This will be disastrous if true. The children of single mothers are more likely to be basket cases and/or cr1minals. Just look at what happened to inner cities after the dissolution of the blck family in the 1970s. This societal rot will infect poor and middle class whyte communities as well. The children of rich single women will be socially awkward and lack emotional control. Meanwhile, without the prospect of romance or family life, many men will partially disengage from the labor market (reducing aggregate productivity) and either become never-do-wells or get lost in the cyber realm. Many of those that don't get lost in cyberspace will still be resentful and angry. Demagogues will take advantage of the situation to "give these men a purpose" in pursuit of revolutionary causes. If unchecked these trends will lead to national ruin. Healthy gender relations are a fundamental building block of society. That is why many nations historically placed checks on pr0miscuity to ensure domestic stability.
they will have to compete with 18-25 yo gen Z girls for the small fraction of eligible 30 yo male bachelors with solid careers
what will the consequences of this demographic trend be?It's pretty simple --millennial women are perfectly comfortable being single mothers to sperm-bank babies. They won't mind one bit being the sole parent, and they'll get to be selective of the genes that will lead to their children.
I think op is a single male who is hoping that such women who rejected him will somehow come to regret their choices. Spoiler: they won't! The future will have armies of unpartnered men who will toil in misery.
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Couple of points:
- as one poster pointed out throughout history generally a large % of men never managed to form families or reproduce. Nothing new here.
- Single-mother families are often also low-class and poor families. I don’t think children raised by a well-off single mothers will fare equally badly, in fact father figure may be much less important then imagined by some here (for example among upper class children were/are often raised by nannies/tutors instead of parents and generally still turned out fine) -
Being a single mom is terrible. It's much harder than having a husband, assuming a husband who has a job and isn't abusive or something. Most husbands will provide at least some childcare, and will provide additional income to the household. Even if you end up doing all of the housework, cooking and cleaning for 3 is not much harder than cooking or cleaning for 2. The idea that husbands are grown babies is a sitcom stereotype -- an actual baby is orders of magnitude of more work than a husband.
we get it, bro, except that it is not. it takes a lot of time to micromanage most men, especially emotionally immature and deeply insecure ones. (trust me, most dudes are. especially those born before 1980.) If you don't see it, you're part of the problem. an no, cleaning and cooking for 2 !=3.
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btw, please ask, "what kind of parent are you?" to any bro (above 40) in your department. I can assure you that the majority would reply "we are...". Repeat the experiment a couple of times; you'll receive the same answer. It really tells you a LOT. It tells you these men have never parented. they are completely unable to parent without their wives telling them what to do.
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btw, please ask, "what kind of parent are you?" to any bro (above 40) in your department. I can assure you that the majority would reply "we are...". Repeat the experiment a couple of times; you'll receive the same answer. It really tells you a LOT. It tells you these men have never parented. they are completely unable to parent without their wives telling them what to do.
yeah so let the woman parent and the man protect and provide. Define parenting. It’s not that hard. A father taking a son to a baseball game is parenting…
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Couple of points:
- as one poster pointed out throughout history generally a large % of men never managed to form families or reproduce. Nothing new here.
- Single-mother families are often also low-class and poor families. I don’t think children raised by a well-off single mothers will fare equally badly, in fact father figure may be much less important then imagined by some here (for example among upper class children were/are often raised by nannies/tutors instead of parents and generally still turned out fine)Not really true. Not ultimately having any surviving descendants is not the same as not having any offspring at all. It just means that men in your social group average less than replacement, thus you eventually exit the gene pool, but it doesn't mean that it typically happens in one generation.
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btw, please ask, "what kind of parent are you?" to any bro (above 40) in your department. I can assure you that the majority would reply "we are...". Repeat the experiment a couple of times; you'll receive the same answer. It really tells you a LOT. It tells you these men have never parented. they are completely unable to parent without their wives telling them what to do.
yeah so let the woman parent and the man protect and provide. Define parenting. It’s not that hard. A father taking a son to a baseball game is parenting…
yes, boomer. raising an emotionally mature child requires a bit more effort than attending a baseball game. of course, one cannot expect an emotionally stunned man to know how to parent.
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btw, please ask, "what kind of parent are you?" to any bro (above 40) in your department. I can assure you that the majority would reply "we are...". Repeat the experiment a couple of times; you'll receive the same answer. It really tells you a LOT. It tells you these men have never parented. they are completely unable to parent without their wives telling them what to do.
yeah so let the woman parent and the man protect and provide. Define parenting. It’s not that hard. A father taking a son to a baseball game is parenting…
yes, boomer. raising an emotionally mature child requires a bit more effort than attending a baseball game. of course, one cannot expect an emotionally stunned man to know how to parent.
^Agreed, this is exactly proving the point. Being a valuable father does not mean just being there for the “Kodak moments” anymore.
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This thread is light on hard facts. I'm not saying you guys are wrong, but what are the statistics on marriage rates of millennials? I ask because I think a lot of discussions about culture and society are driven more by "vibes" (i.e. impressions based on social media) than actual trends.
Anecdotally, I am a college-educated guy in my mid-20s and most of the women I know are in stable long-term relationships. Very few are married, but that reflects their financial situations more than their openness to long-term partnership.
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Same can be said of immature and insecure women. Dealing with them takes a lot of time, effort and money. But if you think most men or women are immature and insecure, it says more about you than about people in general.
Being a single mom is terrible. It's much harder than having a husband, assuming a husband who has a job and isn't abusive or something. Most husbands will provide at least some childcare, and will provide additional income to the household. Even if you end up doing all of the housework, cooking and cleaning for 3 is not much harder than cooking or cleaning for 2. The idea that husbands are grown babies is a sitcom stereotype -- an actual baby is orders of magnitude of more work than a husband.
we get it, bro, except that it is not. it takes a lot of time to micromanage most men, especially emotionally immature and deeply insecure ones. (trust me, most dudes are. especially those born before 1980.) If you don't see it, you're part of the problem. an no, cleaning and cooking for 2 !=3.