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• Thread: 74 Goods vs 83 No Goods

1. Economist
   b992
   

   Nobody will interfere if they grab land and resources from Cambodia or Myanmar but size, distance and cooperation will stop them from doing significant damage to most of the world (including Japan).

   The thing is, China has no interest in doing any of that. Even the US learned from the experiences of prior empires in not trying to "take over" countries. China learned even more from the failures of the US empire. You don't need to invade, you don't need to coerce, you don't need to manage them etc. Just buy them.

   1 year ago # QUOTE 2 Volod 2 Vlad !

2. Economist
   56a6
   

   Japan is around 125m. China is 1400m of equally high IQ pop and it is the manufacturing center of the world. It's a monoethnic giant with a large diaspora where people can get hi-tech products for a fraction of the cost elsewhere. It has a secretive and opaque government that is very hard to infiltrate, with little incentive to be disloyal and big punishment. It has huge highly developed concentrated metropolises and enough rural population to sustain growth. How on earth is Japan going to stop China? I doubt even the US can.
   I am not a fan of China, but everyone else blew the chance to stop it. Sadly, the second half of the 21st century will consist of China pushing everyone else around, and we will live to see it.

   Everyone knows which way the wind is blowing. Anyone who allies with the US...is going to end up badly.

   This. In fact it’s not “going to end up badly”. France has already ended up badly.

   1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 1 Vlad !

3. Economist
   81ba
   

   Nobody will interfere if they grab land and resources from Cambodia or Myanmar but size, distance and cooperation will stop them from doing significant damage to most of the world (including Japan).

   The thing is, China has no interest in doing any of that. Even the US learned from the experiences of prior empires in not trying to "take over" countries. China learned even more from the failures of the US empire. You don't need to invade, you don't need to coerce, you don't need to manage them etc. Just buy them.

   Just buy them? At what price?

   1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 1 Vlad !

4. Economist
   656f
   

   Nobody will interfere if they grab land and resources from Cambodia or Myanmar but size, distance and cooperation will stop them from doing significant damage to most of the world (including Japan).

   The thing is, China has no interest in doing any of that. Even the US learned from the experiences of prior empires in not trying to "take over" countries. China learned even more from the failures of the US empire. You don't need to invade, you don't need to coerce, you don't need to manage them etc. Just buy them.

   If you know Cambodia or Myanmar, you'll know this domination is already happening in the border areas. The point is that, as Britain learnt and then Japan and the USA, the actions of a dominant military power are not determined by the median voter, but by the most aggressive elements of the military who create 'incidents' and push the country into war. The major aim of Japan and other countries has to be to avoid succumbing to provocation on the part of the extremists in the Chinese military.

   1 year ago # QUOTE 3 Volod 0 Vlad !

5. Economist
   56a6
   

   Nobody will interfere if they grab land and resources from Cambodia or Myanmar but size, distance and cooperation will stop them from doing significant damage to most of the world (including Japan).

   The thing is, China has no interest in doing any of that. Even the US learned from the experiences of prior empires in not trying to "take over" countries. China learned even more from the failures of the US empire. You don't need to invade, you don't need to coerce, you don't need to manage them etc. Just buy them.

   Just buy them? At what price?

   Price of a French submarine.

   1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

6. Economist
   4165
   

   That shrine are mostly for non-war crime soldiers.

   Oh yeah? How many nazi war criminals among non crime nazi soldiers were there? A dozen among a million?

   War criminal in that place: less than 100
   All the solders in that place: more than 2 million

   It doesn’t sound a big deal. Time to move on for those countries.

   1 year ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 0 Vlad !

7. Economist
   4165
   

   Nobody will interfere if they grab land and resources from Cambodia or Myanmar but size, distance and cooperation will stop them from doing significant damage to most of the world (including Japan).

   The thing is, China has no interest in doing any of that. Even the US learned from the experiences of prior empires in not trying to "take over" countries. China learned even more from the failures of the US empire. You don't need to invade, you don't need to coerce, you don't need to manage them etc. Just buy them.

   Lie. They made a phoney artificial island in South China Sea.

   1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 2 Vlad !

8. Economist
   656f
   

   Nobody will interfere if they grab land and resources from Cambodia or Myanmar but size, distance and cooperation will stop them from doing significant damage to most of the world (including Japan).

   The thing is, China has no interest in doing any of that. Even the US learned from the experiences of prior empires in not trying to "take over" countries. China learned even more from the failures of the US empire. You don't need to invade, you don't need to coerce, you don't need to manage them etc. Just buy them.

   Just buy them? At what price?

   Price of a French submarine.

   I hear they are having a sale.

   1 year ago # QUOTE 2 Volod 0 Vlad !

9. Economist
   929e
   

   War criminal in that place: less than 100
   All the solders in that place: more than 2 million
   It doesn’t sound a big deal. Time to move on for those countries.

   It was big enough of a deal that Emperor Hirohito himself permanently boycotted Yasukuni for the rest of his life upon learning that Class A war criminals had been shrined.

   1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 1 Vlad !

10. Economist
    283c
    

    Japan is around 125m. China is 1400m of equally high IQ pop and it is the manufacturing center of the world. It's a monoethnic giant with a large diaspora where people can get hi-tech products for a fraction of the cost elsewhere. It has a secretive and opaque government that is very hard to infiltrate, with little incentive to be disloyal and big punishment. It has huge highly developed concentrated metropolises and enough rural population to sustain growth. How on earth is Japan going to stop China? I doubt even the US can.
    I am not a fan of China, but everyone else blew the chance to stop it. Sadly, the second half of the 21st century will consist of China pushing everyone else around, and we will live to see it.

    Such a weird comparison China is literally more diverse than America.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 3 Vlad !

11. Economist
    b992
    

    Lie. They made a phoney artificial island in South China Sea.

    And? lol

    PS: making artificial islands in the South China Sea has been going on since the 1970s, by at least 3 countries.

    If you know Cambodia or Myanmar, you'll know this domination is already happening in the border areas.

    They've had border conflicts for about 2,000 years now. This is hardly evidence of them seeking world domination.

    The point is that, as Britain learnt and then Japan and the USA, the actions of a dominant military power are not determined by the median voter, but by the most aggressive elements of the military who create 'incidents' and push the country into war. The major aim of Japan and other countries has to be to avoid succumbing to provocation on the part of the extremists in the Chinese military.

    If you don't have senile civilian leadership in power like the US, or an incredibly ridiculous feudal-style government like WW2 Japan...this is probably not an issue China or Japan have to worry about.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 1 Vlad !

12. Economist
    9019
    

    War criminal in that place: less than 100
    All the solders in that place: more than 2 million
    It doesn’t sound a big deal. Time to move on for those countries.

    It was big enough of a deal that Emperor Hirohito himself permanently boycotted Yasukuni for the rest of his life upon learning that Class A war criminals had been shrined.

    Japanese dudes say it’s not a big deal but won’t let it go. Don’t be a coward.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 1 Vlad !

13. Economist
    9019
    

    Would it be a big deal if hittler were to be enshrined among his dead soldiers? Japan takes it one step further. Their leaders visit the shrine every year, and insist they have apologized for slave labors and sex slavery. Not all ejmr bros are idjots.

    War criminal in that place: less than 100
    All the solders in that place: more than 2 million
    It doesn’t sound a big deal. Time to move on for those countries.

    It was big enough of a deal that Emperor Hirohito himself permanently boycotted Yasukuni for the rest of his life upon learning that Class A war criminals had been shrined.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 0 Vlad !

14. Economist
    4165
    

    Would it be a big deal if hittler were to be enshrined among his dead soldiers? Japan takes it one step further. Their leaders visit the shrine every year, and insist they have apologized for slave labors and sex slavery. Not all ejmr bros are idjots.

    War criminal in that place: less than 100
    All the solders in that place: more than 2 million
    It doesn’t sound a big deal. Time to move on for those countries.

    It was big enough of a deal that Emperor Hirohito himself permanently boycotted Yasukuni for the rest of his life upon learning that Class A war criminals had been shrined.
    

    This looks more than enough. They go to that shrine for dead soldiers in general, not for war criminals.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan

    1 year ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 0 Vlad !

15. Economist
    db9c
    

    Wumaos are working overtime today.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 1 Vlad !

16. Economist
    00a5
    

    Wumaos are working overtime today.

    I'm pretty impressed by their work effort

    1 year ago # QUOTE 2 Volod 1 Vlad !

17. Economist
    9e2f
    

    Japan is around 125m. China is 1400m of equally high IQ pop and it is the manufacturing center of the world. It's a monoethnic giant with a large diaspora where people can get hi-tech products for a fraction of the cost elsewhere. It has a secretive and opaque government that is very hard to infiltrate, with little incentive to be disloyal and big punishment. It has huge highly developed concentrated metropolises and enough rural population to sustain growth. How on earth is Japan going to stop China? I doubt even the US can.
    I am not a fan of China, but everyone else blew the chance to stop it. Sadly, the second half of the 21st century will consist of China pushing everyone else around, and we will live to see it.

    Aesthetics. You laugh but the chinese have not true conception of beauty. Which means they have low moral and are easily manipulated.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 1 Vlad !

18. Economist
    7e2f
    

    How can they be the biggest power when their gdp per capita is a quarter of that of Japan?

    China's GDP per capita is about 45% that of Japan's and growing at 5%.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 1 Vlad !

19. Economist
    656f
    

    How can they be the biggest power when their gdp per capita is a quarter of that of Japan?

    China's GDP per capita is about 45% that of Japan's and growing at 5%.

    weird China GDP per capita troll is back. Japan: 40,000 US dollars. China: 10,150 dollars. Outside of a Harvard spreadsheet how is that 45% done?

    1 year ago # QUOTE 1 Volod 1 Vlad !

20. Economist
    7e2f
    

    weird China GDP per capita troll is back. Japan: 40,000 US dollars. China: 10,150 dollars. Outside of a Harvard spreadsheet how is that 45% done?

    Hey sociology bro, economists know that to compare countries PPP is necessary.

    1 year ago # QUOTE 0 Volod 1 Vlad !

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